Redbird611

Does anyone know the status of the Compass flow? What month will the last flow be in class? With the reduced class sizes they are taking a huge percentage of spots. I figure the logjam will start to clear when that is over.

gloopy

Pretty good advice in general.

Make sure you know their situation too. A family of 4 that can't separate and wants to sit together trying to to go EU in the summer or MCO/LAS anytime, etc and pretty much forget about it. A single friend with flexibile travel plans that can afford to get stranded somewhere for a week? Hey, have at it.

I'm getting to the point where I'm about to only give them out for flexible international travel, preferrably off peak. Thats all they are good for. Show up to ATL/JFK and 4 or 5 hours prior to the flight see what's wide open in first as well as open in the back, considering non revs, as well as for the return flight, and that's where you're going. Book it, check in, hang around another hour or so, and if its still open and there's not a massive weather event moving in, go on priceline or whatever and book your hotels etc.

Anything else is just dumb. Buddy pass charges can rival or sometimes exceed positive space coach and you could get stranded somewhere for over a week easy. I've found that when you try to tell people this, their eyes glaze over as long as its a dollar cheaper than buying it and they want it anyway, even with full coach and -40 in the back with 60 non revs. They just want to save that dollar.

They get severe tunnel vision and its up to you to not let them. Buddy passes mostly suck unless you use them for wide open flexible internationa where you'll definately get first class at least one way.

buckleyboy

You and your family can get nonrev travel privileges on day 1 as soon as you pay the $50 for the privilege. You will not be allowed buddy passes until you've been at the company a year. Previous posters are correct about them being pretty much worthless.

AluminumFoil

August the last one's will be put on the seniority list but they will be taking up class spots until November I believe because of their 90 day hold backs.

Flycameron

As late as November and as early as September but plan on October.

4FrozenFans

So, is there any gouge on the training center increasing capacity after August? Back to 100+ per month?

They are only through the middle of April and the pool of CJOs is getting bigger by the week.

-4FF

4fans

In the latest indoc class they briefed that they were slowing down for the summer and hinted that it would increase in the fall or winter. They briefed that they have to hire an avg of 600 people per year indefinitely just to keep up with retirements.

With that being said they don't broadcast their intentions for a reason. They have to be nimble. I imagine once the summer is over and the training backlog clears a little there will be large classes again but who knows. If/when they buy those e190s from Boeing they will have to fill them somehow and the 73 and 7er fleets are still short handed.

MikeF16

For comparison, last year they had a big pool going into summer and by September it was pretty much gone. That said, they weren't hiring as many per month so not an entirely valid comparison.

MTSUFlyer

Anyone here have experience with Mil Leave as a new hire? I interviewed in May and was told to expect late July to early August Indoc but I think it will probably be closer to September now. I am Palace Chasing in August to a C-130 unit (no C-130 experience) and will have to take Mil Leave for the full initial qual course at Little Rock which will be 4-5 months plus seasoning so probably 8-9 months total. The guard unit seams pretty flexible so I don't think there will be a problem getting through IOE before going to Little Rock, but they've been deployed so no communication on timeline. At some point while I'm on probation I'll have to take several months of Mil Leave which isn't the most ideal situation, but at this point I'm still on cloud 9 on getting the CJO! Any thoughts on approximately how long after Indoc I should tell my guard unit would be a good time to attend the C-130 training?

TED74

You definitely want to not only finish OE, but also consolidation (100 hours in the airplane) before taking significant chunks of mil leave. It's the right thing to do (IMHO) and your unit should completely understand. After that, timing is up to you, depending on how much heat you want to take from your CPO. I'm pretty sure your probation extends one-for-one for mil leave periods exceeding 30 continuous days, but I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment...