DAL Poolie Info
12-23-2014, 07:55 PM
#3213
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2010
Position: B-52 IP / Delta Poolie
Posts: 188
What does a 5-day trip look like vs a 737 lazy good for nothing trip look like?
Well this atypical but here are two trips of the same pay time on the 717 and 737: (and yes I can find worse trips on the 737 and a lot better trips on the 717 for the same pay mind you, it's just a little fun comparison given perceived rotation types)
B717
3-Day trip:
Except where noted the rest of the turn times are 39-44 minutes.
4-day:
DAY 1
ATL-GSP
GSP-ATL
ATL-ECP
ECP-ATL
ATL-EWR
DAY 2
EWR-ATL
ATL-JAN
DAY 3
JAN-ATL
ATL-ORD
ORD-ATL
ATL-SAV
DAY 4
SAV-ATL
ATL-TLH
TLH-ATL
ATL-PNS
PNS-ATL
22.25 Pay
737
3-Day 15.45 block trip:
Day 1:
ATL-SJC (13 hour downtown SFO overnight)
Day 2:
SFO-MSP
MSP-EWR (17 hour downtown New York overnight)
Day 3:
LGA-ATL4-Day Trip with 22.25 Pay:
Now, I do the 717 flying, I enjoy that kind of flying and the 717 is a great airplane for it. I'd enjoy the other flying too. Pick whatever works for you.
Well this atypical but here are two trips of the same pay time on the 717 and 737: (and yes I can find worse trips on the 737 and a lot better trips on the 717 for the same pay mind you, it's just a little fun comparison given perceived rotation types)
B717
3-Day trip:
Day 1:
ATL-MOB
MOB-ATL (1.54 sit)
ATL-GSP
GSP-ATL
ATL-SAV
Day 2:
SAV-ATL
ATL-EWR
Day 3:
EWR-ATL (1.38 sit)
ATL-HSV
HSV-ATL
ATL-JAN
JAN-ATL
15.45 PayATL-MOB
MOB-ATL (1.54 sit)
ATL-GSP
GSP-ATL
ATL-SAV
Day 2:
SAV-ATL
ATL-EWR
Day 3:
EWR-ATL (1.38 sit)
ATL-HSV
HSV-ATL
ATL-JAN
JAN-ATL
Except where noted the rest of the turn times are 39-44 minutes.
4-day:
DAY 1
ATL-GSP
GSP-ATL
ATL-ECP
ECP-ATL
ATL-EWR
DAY 2
EWR-ATL
ATL-JAN
DAY 3
JAN-ATL
ATL-ORD
ORD-ATL
ATL-SAV
DAY 4
SAV-ATL
ATL-TLH
TLH-ATL
ATL-PNS
PNS-ATL
737
3-Day 15.45 block trip:
Day 1:
ATL-SJC (13 hour downtown SFO overnight)
Day 2:
SFO-MSP
MSP-EWR (17 hour downtown New York overnight)
Day 3:
LGA-ATL
Day 1
ATL-SEA
Day 2
SEA-MSP
MSP-BOS
Day 3
BOS-MSP
MSP-SAN
Day 4
SAN-ATL
ATL-SEA
Day 2
SEA-MSP
MSP-BOS
Day 3
BOS-MSP
MSP-SAN
Day 4
SAN-ATL
Now, I do the 717 flying, I enjoy that kind of flying and the 717 is a great airplane for it. I'd enjoy the other flying too. Pick whatever works for you.
12-24-2014, 07:13 AM
#3214
Bus Driver
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 278
The Bus and the 73 will be similar, but the 320 cockpit is luxurious. The side stick/table combo frees up all kinds of space. Just yesterday we flew with 2 jump seaters AND their bags in the cockpit, too. Network will constantly tweak specific city pairs and times, but the basic construct of 1-3 legs should be consistent.
12-24-2014, 07:48 AM
#3215
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: undefined
Posts: 328
1
MSP-SNA
2
SNA-MSP-LGA
3
LGA-MSY
4
MSY-SLC-BOI
5
BOI-MSP-ORD-MSP
A Junior 320 trip looks a lot like:
1
MSP-ATL-MKE
2
MKE-MSP-SNA
3
SNA-MSP-BIS
4
BIS-MSP-DEN-MSP
Rarely will you get a trip that is just one leg a day, or just as rare, 5+ legs a day. The A320 front office is nice, and is easy to fly, but a four leg day on the last day is tiring no matter what.
Hope that helps
12-26-2014, 02:26 PM
#3219
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2010
Position: B-52 IP / Delta Poolie
Posts: 188
Just a couple of Delta pay-related questions for anyone in the know:
1) What is the new-hire training salary planned for 2015?
2) Does the 15% 401k contribution start with your first paycheck (i.e. during training), or does it not pick up until you are complete with training?
3) What does one get paid during training if they decide to change planes/seats in the future? Do they go back to the training salary while in class, or do they maintain the minimum reserve guarantee of the aircraft/seat they came from?
Thanks in advance!
1) What is the new-hire training salary planned for 2015?
2) Does the 15% 401k contribution start with your first paycheck (i.e. during training), or does it not pick up until you are complete with training?
3) What does one get paid during training if they decide to change planes/seats in the future? Do they go back to the training salary while in class, or do they maintain the minimum reserve guarantee of the aircraft/seat they came from?
Thanks in advance!
12-27-2014, 08:08 AM
#3220
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 956
Just a couple of Delta pay-related questions for anyone in the know:
1) What is the new-hire training salary planned for 2015?
2) Does the 15% 401k contribution start with your first paycheck (i.e. during training), or does it not pick up until you are complete with training?
3) What does one get paid during training if they decide to change planes/seats in the future? Do they go back to the training salary while in class, or do they maintain the minimum reserve guarantee of the aircraft/seat they came from?
Thanks in advance!
1) What is the new-hire training salary planned for 2015?
2) Does the 15% 401k contribution start with your first paycheck (i.e. during training), or does it not pick up until you are complete with training?
3) What does one get paid during training if they decide to change planes/seats in the future? Do they go back to the training salary while in class, or do they maintain the minimum reserve guarantee of the aircraft/seat they came from?
Thanks in advance!
2) The company's 15% contribution begins immediately.
3) The salary is tied to being an "entry-level pilot" under the PWA. Any future time you go to training you would no longer be an entry-level pilot and you would be paid your hourly rate for a pro-rata portion of the Average Line Value in your category for each day of qualification training.
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