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Old 04-27-2014, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Small correction, sir.
Good call. More than that will have left by then for other reasons, which means that a new-hire will get to the 50% point on the seniority list that much sooner.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:29 AM
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They have you do a two or three day trip in the jumpseat after your sims and before OE.
I had to do mine in a 737. It was a, well, this sums it up...

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Old 04-27-2014, 03:08 PM
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Indeed. By September 2025 (11 years from now), we will have MANDATORILY retired over 6000 pilots, more than half our current seniority list. What does that say for the advancement potential of today's new-hire?

Small correction, sir.



If the early retirement numbers stay like 2013 you can expect a 3% early retirement rate. So that is about 38 early retirements over the next half decade and about 180 early over the next 11 years.

Just flew with line check captain who said at the line check meeting the early retirement subject came up several times and the general consensus was its to expensive to go early. Due to health insurance, lack of retirement and such.
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:29 PM
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If classes are starting on Mondays, does the training hotel reservation begin that Sunday afternoon or do we need our own reservation for Sunday night?
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:51 PM
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Indeed. By September 2025 (11 years from now), we will have MANDATORILY retired over 6000 pilots, more than half our current seniority list. What does that say for the advancement potential of today's new-hire?

Small correction, sir.



If the early retirement numbers stay like 2013 you can expect a 3% early retirement rate. So that is about 38 early retirements over the next half decade and about 180 early over the next 11 years.

Just flew with line check captain who said at the line check meeting the early retirement subject came up several times and the general consensus was its to expensive to go early. Due to health insurance, lack of retirement and such.
Keep in mind that the early rate has dropped to 3 percent after a early out program was offered. It will pick up a bit as time goes on. That also does not include pilots who medical out which is a much higher number. Absent another early out program you will not see to many early outs on the Delta side. There is no reason to retire. Pilots will do one of 3 things. Stay till they retire or die, go out on disability or drop down to one or two trips a month. I know one now who flies one or sometimes two turns a month. Progression will however be above the basic retirement rate by a good margin.
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Old 04-27-2014, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by daldude
Just flew with line check captain who said at the line check meeting the early retirement subject came up several times and the general consensus was its to expensive to go early. Due to health insurance, lack of retirement and such.
Here:

https://www.healthcare.gov/

It even says "affordable" in the name.

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Old 04-27-2014, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Yep. Despite all the APC rif-raf it is a great place to work and has gotten better every year since I was hired in 07. You newbies that are getting hired now will be able to hold a Captain seat in NYC within 7 years. That's faster than some of you upgraded at a regional. Enjoy the good times and hopefully they continue. If we could get RA to stick around another 30 years I think we would be set.
Right behind 2000 hires ... don't do the math, it's kinda depressing.

Actually, if we grow I expect NYC to get down to two years or so. We very nearly had 2007 hires make it to NYC 88 A before we merged. It got down to 13 or 14 with advanced preferences.
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Old 04-27-2014, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Right behind 2000 hires ... don't do the math, it's kinda depressing.

Actually, if we grow I expect NYC to get down to two years or so. We very nearly had 2007 hires make it to NYC 88 A before we merged. It got down to 13 or 14 with advanced preferences.
Wonder if 2000 hires might see a left seat somewhere on this last AE??
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Right behind 2000 hires ... don't do the math, it's kinda depressing.

Actually, if we grow I expect NYC to get down to two years or so. We very nearly had 2007 hires make it to NYC 88 A before we merged. It got down to 13 or 14 with advanced preferences.
I know. You 2000 hires should be give an override for having the worst possible luck of any group of hires ever to be hired. Bad economy, 9/11, RJ's, Age 65, mergers. You guys have just had one kick after another....sorry man. I will say your group is a good group of guys and gals.
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:34 PM
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If classes are starting on Mondays, does the training hotel reservation begin that Sunday afternoon or do we need our own reservation for Sunday night?
Delta pays for Sunday night.
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