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#1091
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2010
Position: B737NG-B
Posts: 203
I was under the impression that when we merged with NW we allowed them to join DPMA. So essentially 4500 new bodies of all ages had instant disability benifits with out ever paying in while they were young and healthy. This was the primary cause of the rate increase. I heard this from a capt that has some affiliation with administering the DPMA program, so it is purely second had info.
#1092
I would urge anyone who has questions about the various plans and whatnot to download the 2014 Retirement and Insurance handbook from DALPA. It has a ton of great info.
It is available on the R&I Committees web page.
Nu
It is available on the R&I Committees web page.
Nu
#1093
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: A320A
Posts: 45
Unfortunately for me, my first one begins on March 23 when I run out of sick leave.
As a 14 year employee at the merger, I gave up 1200 hours of sick pay. Just lovely.
Hope to be flying with all the new guys by later this summer if everything works out as planned.
#1094
Yes, there is a career limit of 24 months. One individual disability is limited to 12 months. Theoretically though, you could have 24 one-month periods of disability (subject to a bunch of restrictions).
Unfortunately for me, my first one begins on March 23 when I run out of sick leave.
As a 14 year employee at the merger, I gave up 1200 hours of sick pay. Just lovely.
Hope to be flying with all the new guys by later this summer if everything works out as planned.
Unfortunately for me, my first one begins on March 23 when I run out of sick leave.
As a 14 year employee at the merger, I gave up 1200 hours of sick pay. Just lovely.
Hope to be flying with all the new guys by later this summer if everything works out as planned.
I'm no math wizard, but if you burn 240 hours of sick time, then transition to disability and are made whole by DPMA for a year from that point, you are a break even in your case if you have been flying around 80 hours a month over the last few years. 80 X 12 = 960 + 240 = 1200. If you averaged flying less than that, the hour value would be less. Conversely, if you have averaged flying more than 80 hours, you'll come out further ahead. You'll also get a full annual allotment of sick leave hours as soon as training is complete upon your return if it is in a subsequent sick leave year (after June 1). That's with just one use of DPMA for a year. If you have already crested 19 years of service (I couldn't tell for sure from your post) then you have 270 hours instead of the 240 every year.
Just out of curiosity, what is the percentage you pay for DPMA benefits on each paycheck?
#1095
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,753
DPMA doesn't 'make you whole' unless you are a new hire. The amount it pays out goes -down- as you accrue more seniority, not up. It is tax free disability pay however, which helps. As a new hire you get 42%, as a more senior pilot, the scale runs down to 22%.
Disability pay from Harvey Watt is 50%, and if you have 25 years, you'll get 22% from DPMA, so you'll get about 72%.
From the DPMA web site:
How much is my benefit?
DPMA benefits are calculated using the current composite hourly rate (CHR) for your last assigned equipment x 80 hours. This gives you a “zero look back” (ZLB) value. Your ZLB value is then applied to the DPMA Benefit Table. Your DPMA disability benefit will be between 22%-42% of your ZLB value. To determine your payout amount, use the DPMA benefit calculator.
Disability pay from Harvey Watt is 50%, and if you have 25 years, you'll get 22% from DPMA, so you'll get about 72%.
From the DPMA web site:
How much is my benefit?
DPMA benefits are calculated using the current composite hourly rate (CHR) for your last assigned equipment x 80 hours. This gives you a “zero look back” (ZLB) value. Your ZLB value is then applied to the DPMA Benefit Table. Your DPMA disability benefit will be between 22%-42% of your ZLB value. To determine your payout amount, use the DPMA benefit calculator.
#1096
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: A320A
Posts: 45
First off, I wish you the best of luck with whatever your medical issue is. May you have a swift recovery.
I'm no math wizard, but if you burn 240 hours of sick time, then transition to disability and are made whole by DPMA for a year from that point, you are a break even.......... If you have already crested 19 years of service (I couldn't tell for sure from your post) then you have 270 hours instead of the 240 every year.
Just out of curiosity, what is the percentage you pay for DPMA benefits on each paycheck?
I'm no math wizard, but if you burn 240 hours of sick time, then transition to disability and are made whole by DPMA for a year from that point, you are a break even.......... If you have already crested 19 years of service (I couldn't tell for sure from your post) then you have 270 hours instead of the 240 every year.
Just out of curiosity, what is the percentage you pay for DPMA benefits on each paycheck?
The comment about the sick pay was pretty much off the cuff. Never computed it, don't really care. At the time it just seemed like a big number to lose. Having a 100% blockage at the top of your left anterior descending artery tends to change your outlook on lots of things.
Took a look at my last paycheck - it looks like I'm getting reimbursed for about 75% of the DPMA amount. I'm certainly happy with the DPMA, although I had hoped I would never need it. Nice people to work with.
I'm in the 270 hour group. Fortunately I hadn't used any this year so I've been able to go until next week before running out.
If anyone wants any info about the process, feel free to PM me. It's a real pain in the butt, and the outcome for me is still up in the air.
#1098
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,689
I was under the impression that when we merged with NW we allowed them to join DPMA. So essentially 4500 new bodies of all ages had instant disability benifits with out ever paying in while they were young and healthy. This was the primary cause of the rate increase. I heard this from a capt that has some affiliation with administering the DPMA program, so it is purely second had info.
#1099
Thanks. Working hard to get ready for a stress test on Friday. Had a heart attack in December - no previous symptoms. Have to do a freakin' angiogram sometime in April. I'm trying to meet the May FAA cardiac board.
The comment about the sick pay was pretty much off the cuff. Never computed it, don't really care. At the time it just seemed like a big number to lose. Having a 100% blockage at the top of your left anterior descending artery tends to change your outlook on lots of things.
Took a look at my last paycheck - it looks like I'm getting reimbursed for about 75% of the DPMA amount. I'm certainly happy with the DPMA, although I had hoped I would never need it. Nice people to work with.
I'm in the 270 hour group. Fortunately I hadn't used any this year so I've been able to go until next week before running out.
If anyone wants any info about the process, feel free to PM me. It's a real pain in the butt, and the outcome for me is still up in the air.
The comment about the sick pay was pretty much off the cuff. Never computed it, don't really care. At the time it just seemed like a big number to lose. Having a 100% blockage at the top of your left anterior descending artery tends to change your outlook on lots of things.
Took a look at my last paycheck - it looks like I'm getting reimbursed for about 75% of the DPMA amount. I'm certainly happy with the DPMA, although I had hoped I would never need it. Nice people to work with.
I'm in the 270 hour group. Fortunately I hadn't used any this year so I've been able to go until next week before running out.
If anyone wants any info about the process, feel free to PM me. It's a real pain in the butt, and the outcome for me is still up in the air.
I hope all goes well with you and your tests. Hope to see you back on the line soon.
#1100
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Posts: 187
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