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Old 11-21-2018, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadStick
In the last few months I’ve heard mil guys mention this ATP-CTP “silver bullet” thing a few times. I was surprised the first time I heard the vernacular, as that seems to be something new. I asked a DGS instructor about it recently and he was vague on what the ATP-CTP course does for your application. An F/A-18 buddy has had his app in for a while, only to see (arguably) “lesser qualified” mil candidates receive interviews. Those candidates completed DAL’s ATP-CTP whereas he received his ATP through a local FBO. Would be a shame to see a “pay to play” scheme emerging, but admittedly I’m not familiar with the details of the program.
All it does is get the app pulled for screening. You can do exactly the same thing for your buddy with a email.
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
All it does is get the app pulled for screening. You can do exactly the same thing for your buddy with a email.
Sailing,

I respectfully disagree. I’ve submitted 5 internal email recs over the past year and while three of the 5 have received interviews, it took months for that call to arrive.

On the other hand, I have three retiring mil bro’s that all did the DAL ATL-CTP and all three of them got interview invites within 48 hours of the DGS silver bullet once they were done with the course, and this was during this past summer hiring / interview slow down timeframe.
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Old 11-21-2018, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Sailing,

I respectfully disagree. I’ve submitted 5 internal email recs over the past year and while three of the 5 have received interviews, it took months for that call to arrive.

On the other hand, I have three retiring mil bro’s that all did the DAL ATL-CTP and all three of them got interview invites within 48 hours of the DGS silver bullet once they were done with the course, and this was during this past summer hiring / interview slow down timeframe.
Were the other two apps pulled for screening?
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Old 11-21-2018, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadStick
In the last few months I’ve heard mil guys mention this ATP-CTP “silver bullet” thing a few times. I was surprised the first time I heard the vernacular, as that seems to be something new. I asked a DGS instructor about it recently and he was vague on what the ATP-CTP course does for your application. An F/A-18 buddy has had his app in for a while, only to see (arguably) “lesser qualified” mil candidates receive interviews. Those candidates completed DAL’s ATP-CTP whereas he received his ATP through a local FBO. Would be a shame to see a “pay to play” scheme emerging, but admittedly I’m not familiar with the details of the program.
Yeah, cause spending 12 to 20 years in the military flying airplanes doesn’t make these “lesser qualified” candidates competitive (sarcasm). This is not a pay to play scheme. If your friend is highly qualified, an internal rec will result in an interview, especially once hiring spins back up again.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Were the other two apps pulled for screening?
Unknown. All I know is I received the auto reply email saying that the Rec has been received by the pilot hiring department. All 5 were buds separating/retiring from the AF that received their ATP via the non-CTP route.

I would like to think that if special consideration is being given to DAL ATP-CTP grads, it’s because the instructors have seen first hand how they respond to instruction, how they fly the sim, and what it’s like to sit next to them in the cockpit for 4 hours, and not just because they paid Delta for the sim time.
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Unknown. All I know is I received the auto reply email saying that the Rec has been received by the pilot hiring department. All 5 were buds separating/retiring from the AF that received their ATP via the non-CTP route.

I would like to think that if special consideration is being given to DAL ATP-CTP grads, it’s because the instructors have seen first hand how they respond to instruction, how they fly the sim, and what it’s like to sit next to them in the cockpit for 4 hours, and not just because they paid Delta for the sim time.
Did you see the applications they submitted? Not saying it’s the case, but they may have an issue in their background or with their application that you don’t know about.
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kauaiflyguy
Current/Former Delta folks:

Looking for a little professional guidance/advice in regards to applying. I'm sitting at 1700TT and only 360PIC, all of which is turbine, and mostly multiengine. After doing the Delta ATP-CTP, I have a "silver bullet" that will get my app pulled/scored very quickly compared to the normal process or even the internal recommendation. After having my app reviewed, the reviewer said he does not think I will get an invite to interview based on my PIC. Should I hold off using the ATP-CTP "silver bullet" until I have built more time? Does anybody know of folks getting an invite with similar or less PIC time? Thanks.
What service did you use for the review?
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Old 11-26-2018, 07:09 PM
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What service did you use for the review?
I used checked and set. Incredible thorough and I would highly recommend.
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Old 11-26-2018, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Boondoggle
Did you see the applications they submitted? Not saying it’s the case, but they may have an issue in their background or with their application that you don’t know about.
Yes I saw their apps...most of them had been reviewed by checked/set as well.
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:21 AM
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Anyone know anyone who's done the DAL ATP-CTP who hasn't gotten a quick invite? When I finally published my app and called to let them know, despite being told the interviews were slowing way down (this was back in early June), I still got the invite within two days with a date of "we'll call you" and it ended up being late July. Also had two internal recs, but I don't think that's what tipped it.
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