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09-12-2018, 06:10 AM

#9731

Bucking Bar

Can't abide NAI

Joined APC: Jun 2007

Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler

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Word from the top, 250 to 300 needed for Summer 19. ~1,000 a year thereafter for as far as they can read the plan. Figure retirements and ~2 to ~4% YOY growth. The network supporting more larger jets than smaller jets right now. Move everything up one. If it is was planned as a 737-800, probably can use a -900. 767 to A330 etc ....

09-12-2018, 06:54 AM

#9732

sailingfun

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Feb 2008

Posts: 19,689

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Free pay raises that involve no negotiations!

09-12-2018, 06:58 AM

#9733

full of luv

Banned

Joined APC: Dec 2009

Position: Narrow/Left Wide/Right

Posts: 3,655

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Now if we could just get a couple dozen lightly used 777's from the ME carriers to carry out this process to the top!

09-12-2018, 07:51 AM

#9734

sailingfun

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Joined APC: Feb 2008

Posts: 19,689

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Originally Posted by full of luv

Now if we could just get a couple dozen lightly used 777's from the ME carriers to carry out this process to the top!

This last bid started a long term migration of 7ER pilots to the 330.

09-12-2018, 08:24 AM

#9735

JamesBond

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Joined APC: May 2015

Position: A350 Both

Posts: 7,292

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

I'll believe it when I see it.

09-12-2018, 08:25 AM

#9736

JamesBond

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Position: A350 Both

Posts: 7,292

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Free pay raises that involve no negotiations!

It's laughable that bigger equipment is the only way to get a raise here.

09-12-2018, 09:30 AM

#9737

notEnuf

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Joined APC: Mar 2015

Position: stake holder ir.delta.com

Posts: 10,566

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

It's laughable that bigger equipment is the only way to get a raise here.

True but that’s our current reality. More QOL means more opportunities for GSs (or value your time as you see fit) and now no requirement to accept them.

09-12-2018, 10:59 AM

#9738

TED74

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Posts: 5,012

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond

It's laughable that bigger equipment is the only way to get a raise here.

You could go to the fourth floor?

09-12-2018, 11:13 AM

#9739

sailingfun

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Posts: 19,689

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

It's laughable that bigger equipment is the only way to get a raise here.

You certainly seem to work for a different airline than I do. My W2 is triple what I made in 2007. I have moved one step up on the pay ladder. 4% more coming in 4 months. Hourly rate back then was around 160 straight rate and 240 overtime with no PS. Current rate 321 straight and 642 overtime. There is of course more with PS and the fact most guys now hit the 415C limit and many hit it far earlier. Another 16% for a portion of the year. Effective rate for second half of year 417 straight and 834 overtime using 12% for PS plus international pay. Changes in RR pay have netted me another 3 to 4% a year.
Have a friend who was a NB FO in 2007. Made 90K. Will make 450k this year as a NB CA.