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Old 07-12-2018, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Interesting goings on right now. If any of ya'll read other airlines threads, you will see that practically everybody is slowing if not outright stopping hiring.

Draw whatever conclusions you will, but there might be an indicator in there somewhere.
Oil prices, everyone built their business plans around oil being a max of 60 a barrel. If it drops down below 60 I think this will be a blip. If oil stays high you might see a longer period without hiring however retirements provide a safe cushion against furloughs unless the company just decided to use every contractual clause to stick it to the union. If they did that they would be costing themselves money with the current furlough protections so its highly unlikely. Money rules!
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
Thank you. When does the AE come out and how many are in the hiring pool currently?

The AE closes tomorrow so probably early next week IF they work on it over the weekend.

I think the July 9th class was the only one being filled prior to the slowdown announcement. My best guess is a minimum 30-40 in the pool but that doesn’t account for any other CJOs that weren’t originally in the July 9 class.
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Oil prices, everyone built their business plans around oil being a max of 60 a barrel. If it drops down below 60 I think this will be a blip. If oil stays high you might see a longer period without hiring however retirements provide a safe cushion against furloughs unless the company just decided to use every contractual clause to stick it to the union. If they did that they would be costing themselves money with the current furlough protections so its highly unlikely. Money rules!
Everyone? So where is the money going then? A trickle of 'new' growth airplanes, debt increase on those contained; a refinery that gave us a bit of an advantage wrt fuel prices... etc.... I agree that hiring might slow, but I am not sure I agree with your assertion that 'high' oil is the culprit.
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:18 PM
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Are they still conducting interviews, just not having classes?
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Old 07-12-2018, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Everyone? So where is the money going then? A trickle of 'new' growth airplanes, debt increase on those contained; a refinery that gave us a bit of an advantage wrt fuel prices... etc.... I agree that hiring might slow, but I am not sure I agree with your assertion that 'high' oil is the culprit.
Once again it’s not my assertion.its what the management team is stating. Delta’s fuel bill will be 2 billion more than the guidance they used.

July 12 (UPI) -- Delta Air Lines announced Thursday it will be forced to cut out certain routes after the peak summer season in order to offset the rising cost of fuel. Delta's fuel bill rose by $578 million in the second quarter over the same period last year, the carrier said Thursday. This year's total fuel bill is expected to be $2 billion more than it was in 2017. "We have seen early success in addressing the fuel cost increase and offset two-thirds of the impact in the June quarter," said Delta CEO Ed Bastian. Bastian said cutting undersold flights from the fall schedule should position Delta to return to margin expansion by the end of the year. It wasn't initially specified which routes
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Old 07-12-2018, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooselives
Are they still conducting interviews, just not having classes?
A single data point: I had a buddy get a CJO in Mid June, with only 4 interviewed, of which 3 got the CJO. He was told to expect Christmastime Indoc class.

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Old 07-12-2018, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooselives
Are they still conducting interviews, just not having classes?
Yes, interviews are being conducted, just at a slower rate.
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Interesting goings on right now. If any of ya'll read other airlines threads, you will see that practically everybody is slowing if not outright stopping hiring.

Draw whatever conclusions you will, but there might be an indicator in there somewhere.
United has run 120 new hires in the last 6 weeks and added an additional new hire class to August yesterday.

DL has done its hiring now y’all are in displacement phase. United went through it with the 757 and 747 phase out and now DL is going through it with 747 and MD80 phase out. The displacements never go where the company wants them too and the training churn is tremendous. The efficiencies that are gained through eliminating a fleet are not negligible especially when the fleet is as big as DLs MD fleet. I would bet the efficiencies gained in staffing will cover close to a years worth of retirements and upgrades. Just a few hundred 747 pilots shut United down for 6 months and caused the WB bids to dry up for close to a year. United is just now starting to get back into hiring and upgrading.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
United has run 120 new hires in the last 6 weeks and added an additional new hire class to August yesterday.

DL has done its hiring now y’all are in displacement phase. United went through it with the 757 and 747 phase out and now DL is going through it with 747 and MD80 phase out. The displacements never go where the company wants them too and the training churn is tremendous. The efficiencies that are gained through eliminating a fleet are not negligible especially when the fleet is as big as DLs MD fleet. I would bet the efficiencies gained in staffing will cover close to a years worth of retirements and upgrades. Just a few hundred 747 pilots shut United down for 6 months and caused the WB bids to dry up for close to a year. United is just now starting to get back into hiring and upgrading.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:20 PM
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What’s so funny? What other reason is there for DL to cancel classes?
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