Delta Hiring News
03-30-2016, 03:30 AM
#8661
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Anyone know how it long it takes to go from app scoring to invite for interview?
03-30-2016, 05:51 AM
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03-30-2016, 07:17 AM
#8664
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For some clients, after reviewing their applications it has been as short as a week. For others, it has been over one year. It just depends on the mistakes we find on the application and the quality of the candidate.
If you have a question about your application, send us a PM or email. Good luck.
If you have a question about your application, send us a PM or email. Good luck.
03-30-2016, 07:30 AM
#8665
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I was hired by Delta back in 1976. I sent in my first application in 1970 on my way to Vietnam. In 1970 I was not competitive, but just three years earlier ('67) I would have been. When I graduated from HS in '67 no college was needed and if you had your Commercial & Instrument as well as your military obligation satisfied you were golden. Well I furiously worked on my ratings to the detriment of my college schooling and was expelled. No problem since I was going to be an airline pilot....except Sam had a different idea and I ended up in helicopter flight school and an all expenses paid trip to Vietnam.
Well it was 1975 before I finally received my BS and was a viable applicant. Delta had not hired since 1973 and would not before October of '76 which is the class I was fortunate enough to be selected for. The whole time between that first application and when I interviewed updated my application quarterly (typically sent to the VP Flt OPS....Snake). They used the first application as a cover jacket for all the updates and by the time I got to the interview it was between 3 & 4 inches thick. They got it out and it kind of spilled out on the desk and the interviewer said "wow you sure have been persistent". I was 27 years old and started on 10/18/76.
On a different subject I've been reading your posts in various threads about retirement restoration in the current negotiations. Since I only receive $300 per month instead of the $8K I should be getting I want you to know you have a cheerleader cheering enthusiastically for your efforts from the outside.
Well it was 1975 before I finally received my BS and was a viable applicant. Delta had not hired since 1973 and would not before October of '76 which is the class I was fortunate enough to be selected for. The whole time between that first application and when I interviewed updated my application quarterly (typically sent to the VP Flt OPS....Snake). They used the first application as a cover jacket for all the updates and by the time I got to the interview it was between 3 & 4 inches thick. They got it out and it kind of spilled out on the desk and the interviewer said "wow you sure have been persistent". I was 27 years old and started on 10/18/76.
On a different subject I've been reading your posts in various threads about retirement restoration in the current negotiations. Since I only receive $300 per month instead of the $8K I should be getting I want you to know you have a cheerleader cheering enthusiastically for your efforts from the outside.
You know if it were up to me, the company would have to take our DB plan back from the PBGC and pay you, me, and every other Delta pilot who lost Millions, our full 60% FAE again, BEFORE the company pizz's away any more Billions on stock buy backs! How that is even legal is beyond me.
Oh, and I got to meet Snake, one on one, my very first day at Delta. We all showed up for day 1 class just prior to 0800. Some guy comes into our class, calling out my name. I said, "That's me." He said, "Grab your stuff, come with me."
I'm thinking...hmm...this can't be good. "Where are we going?"
"Captain Smith wants to talk to you."
(oh phuck...what have I done? I just got here!)
We go out into the parking lot, get into his car, drive across the street to the big red brick building. He walks me up to Snake's office, I'm greeted by his secretary, she says, "Go on in, have a seat, Captain Smith will be along in a few minutes."
I go into his office, sit in the chair, wait.... In walks Snake, I jump to attention, we shake hands, he say, "Have a seat. You know, I don't do any interviewing any more, so I like to see the type of people we are hiring these days, why don't you tell me about yourself."
Me, "Where do you want me to start?"
Him, "Anywhere you want."
So I start with my first ride in my dad's J3 when I was 8, up through all my 135 flying jobs, then joining the Air Guard, UPT, KC135's, more part 135, and I had just left right seat on a DC 9 flying boxes for Orion. (Purolator Currier contract).
He asks, "How did you like flying for Orion?"
I said, "It was great, they treated me well and the pay was good, and if I stayed there a little longer, I'd make Captain."
He said, "Why don't you tell me about the way you LEFT Orion?"
I had quit Orion, on a BOS layover, exactly 48 hours ago. Apparently the Chief Pilot had called Delta to tell them what a douchebag I was, quitting with zero notice, on a layover.
So....I explained how I would have loved have given them 2 weeks notice, but, "...you guys only gave me 48 hours notice to be here today. THIS is where I've always wanted to work, and all my airline mentors at the Guard told me, 'Don't EVER give up a class date! It could be the difference between making copilot, or captain, for YEARS!' so I called Orion as soon as I got off the phone with Dana (the gal from DL who called me Weds morning at 8) and I knew they had another copilot on reserve, in Indy (their hub) because I had just seen him there Tuesday night, and I called the Captain to let him know I wasn't coming that night, and I know they flew that F/O to BOS that morning and that plane left BOS on time that night."
He just smiled, stood up, (as did I) reached across his desk, shook my hand and said, "Well, I think you are going to have a fine career here at Delta Air Lines, now, get on back to class."
I could hardly walk, my knees were still shaking. I got on back to class, knowing I was now officially walking on egg shells for at least the next 12 months! (double secret probation).
Four weeks later, at the end of our 727 Engineer ground school, Snake comes to congratulate our class. I'm second youngest (26) so I'm sitting in the far back row, keeping my head down, maybe he won't remember me? It's been a month and maybe his memory and eyesight's not that good...
Snake walks to the front of the classroom, turns around, addresses the class, "Hi gentlemen, I'm Snake Smith, Vice President of Flight Operations, Tim and I have already met."
Yup, walking on eggshells!
03-30-2016, 08:46 AM
#8666
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Thanks for your support, and for your service in 'Nam.
You know if it were up to me, the company would have to take our DB plan back from the PBGC and pay you, me, and every other Delta pilot who lost Millions, our full 60% FAE again, BEFORE the company pizz's away any more Billions on stock buy backs! How that is even legal is beyond me.
Oh, and I got to meet Snake, one on one, my very first day at Delta. We all showed up for day 1 class just prior to 0800. Some guy comes into our class, calling out my name. I said, "That's me." He said, "Grab your stuff, come with me."
I'm thinking...hmm...this can't be good. "Where are we going?"
"Captain Smith wants to talk to you."
(oh phuck...what have I done? I just got here!)
We go out into the parking lot, get into his car, drive across the street to the big red brick building. He walks me up to Snake's office, I'm greeted by his secretary, she says, "Go on in, have a seat, Captain Smith will be along in a few minutes."
I go into his office, sit in the chair, wait.... In walks Snake, I jump to attention, we shake hands, he say, "Have a seat. You know, I don't do any interviewing any more, so I like to see the type of people we are hiring these days, why don't you tell me about yourself."
Me, "Where do you want me to start?"
Him, "Anywhere you want."
So I start with my first ride in my dad's J3 when I was 8, up through all my 135 flying jobs, then joining the Air Guard, UPT, KC135's, more part 135, and I had just left right seat on a DC 9 flying boxes for Orion. (Purolator Currier contract).
He asks, "How did you like flying for Orion?"
I said, "It was great, they treated me well and the pay was good, and if I stayed there a little longer, I'd make Captain."
He said, "Why don't you tell me about the way you LEFT Orion?"
I had quit Orion, on a BOS layover, exactly 48 hours ago. Apparently the Chief Pilot had called Delta to tell them what a douchebag I was, quitting with zero notice, on a layover.
So....I explained how I would have loved have given them 2 weeks notice, but, "...you guys only gave me 48 hours notice to be here today. THIS is where I've always wanted to work, and all my airline mentors at the Guard told me, 'Don't EVER give up a class date! It could be the difference between making copilot, or captain, for YEARS!' so I called Orion as soon as I got off the phone with Dana (the gal from DL who called me Weds morning at 8) and I knew they had another copilot on reserve, in Indy (their hub) because I had just seen him there Tuesday night, and I called the Captain to let him know I wasn't coming that night, and I know they flew that F/O to BOS that morning and that plane left BOS on time that night."
He just smiled, stood up, (as did I) reached across his desk, shook my hand and said, "Well, I think you are going to have a fine career here at Delta Air Lines, now, get on back to class."
I could hardly walk, my knees were still shaking. I got on back to class, knowing I was now officially walking on egg shells for at least the next 12 months! (double secret probation).
Four weeks later, at the end of our 727 Engineer ground school, Snake comes to congratulate our class. I'm second youngest (26) so I'm sitting in the far back row, keeping my head down, maybe he won't remember me? It's been a month and maybe his memory and eyesight's not that good...
Snake walks to the front of the classroom, turns around, addresses the class, "Hi gentlemen, I'm Snake Smith, Vice President of Flight Operations, Tim and I have already met."
Yup, walking on eggshells!
You know if it were up to me, the company would have to take our DB plan back from the PBGC and pay you, me, and every other Delta pilot who lost Millions, our full 60% FAE again, BEFORE the company pizz's away any more Billions on stock buy backs! How that is even legal is beyond me.
Oh, and I got to meet Snake, one on one, my very first day at Delta. We all showed up for day 1 class just prior to 0800. Some guy comes into our class, calling out my name. I said, "That's me." He said, "Grab your stuff, come with me."
I'm thinking...hmm...this can't be good. "Where are we going?"
"Captain Smith wants to talk to you."
(oh phuck...what have I done? I just got here!)
We go out into the parking lot, get into his car, drive across the street to the big red brick building. He walks me up to Snake's office, I'm greeted by his secretary, she says, "Go on in, have a seat, Captain Smith will be along in a few minutes."
I go into his office, sit in the chair, wait.... In walks Snake, I jump to attention, we shake hands, he say, "Have a seat. You know, I don't do any interviewing any more, so I like to see the type of people we are hiring these days, why don't you tell me about yourself."
Me, "Where do you want me to start?"
Him, "Anywhere you want."
So I start with my first ride in my dad's J3 when I was 8, up through all my 135 flying jobs, then joining the Air Guard, UPT, KC135's, more part 135, and I had just left right seat on a DC 9 flying boxes for Orion. (Purolator Currier contract).
He asks, "How did you like flying for Orion?"
I said, "It was great, they treated me well and the pay was good, and if I stayed there a little longer, I'd make Captain."
He said, "Why don't you tell me about the way you LEFT Orion?"
I had quit Orion, on a BOS layover, exactly 48 hours ago. Apparently the Chief Pilot had called Delta to tell them what a douchebag I was, quitting with zero notice, on a layover.
So....I explained how I would have loved have given them 2 weeks notice, but, "...you guys only gave me 48 hours notice to be here today. THIS is where I've always wanted to work, and all my airline mentors at the Guard told me, 'Don't EVER give up a class date! It could be the difference between making copilot, or captain, for YEARS!' so I called Orion as soon as I got off the phone with Dana (the gal from DL who called me Weds morning at 8) and I knew they had another copilot on reserve, in Indy (their hub) because I had just seen him there Tuesday night, and I called the Captain to let him know I wasn't coming that night, and I know they flew that F/O to BOS that morning and that plane left BOS on time that night."
He just smiled, stood up, (as did I) reached across his desk, shook my hand and said, "Well, I think you are going to have a fine career here at Delta Air Lines, now, get on back to class."
I could hardly walk, my knees were still shaking. I got on back to class, knowing I was now officially walking on egg shells for at least the next 12 months! (double secret probation).
Four weeks later, at the end of our 727 Engineer ground school, Snake comes to congratulate our class. I'm second youngest (26) so I'm sitting in the far back row, keeping my head down, maybe he won't remember me? It's been a month and maybe his memory and eyesight's not that good...
Snake walks to the front of the classroom, turns around, addresses the class, "Hi gentlemen, I'm Snake Smith, Vice President of Flight Operations, Tim and I have already met."
Yup, walking on eggshells!
BTW I totally agree with you about Delta's priorities with cash. Now they're saying they are going to give a percentage of their profits to charity. Seems like they should start with their own.
It's sad JM was ousted to be replaced by Moak. If JM was chairman at the time, I do not think there would have been anyway the termination of the DB plan would have happened. If JM has anything it's backbone. I am prejudiced though...we go a long way back. I was a Captain rep for C2K and one of the 49ers....do you remember the law suit? Anyway, John and I are still good friends. In fact when I heard he was taking on the job again I offered to run an intervention on him.
03-30-2016, 09:18 AM
#8667
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Great story....thx for sharing.
BTW I totally agree with you about Delta's priorities with cash. Now they're saying they are going to give a percentage of their profits to charity. Seems like they should start with their own.
It's sad JM was ousted to be replaced by Moak. If JM was chairman at the time, I do not think there would have been anyway the termination of the DB plan would have happened. If JM has anything it's backbone. I am prejudiced though...we go a long way back. I was a Captain rep for C2K and one of the 49ers....do you remember the law suit? Anyway, John and I are still good friends. In fact when I heard he was taking on the job again I offered to run an intervention on him.
BTW I totally agree with you about Delta's priorities with cash. Now they're saying they are going to give a percentage of their profits to charity. Seems like they should start with their own.
It's sad JM was ousted to be replaced by Moak. If JM was chairman at the time, I do not think there would have been anyway the termination of the DB plan would have happened. If JM has anything it's backbone. I am prejudiced though...we go a long way back. I was a Captain rep for C2K and one of the 49ers....do you remember the law suit? Anyway, John and I are still good friends. In fact when I heard he was taking on the job again I offered to run an intervention on him.
1st. It's criminal that you are only getting $300 a month in retirement
2nd. Thank you for your service in Nam!
03-30-2016, 10:33 AM
#8668
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,753
Great story....thx for sharing.
BTW I totally agree with you about Delta's priorities with cash. Now they're saying they are going to give a percentage of their profits to charity. Seems like they should start with their own.
It's sad JM was ousted to be replaced by Moak. If JM was chairman at the time, I do not think there would have been anyway the termination of the DB plan would have happened. If JM has anything it's backbone. I am prejudiced though...we go a long way back. I was a Captain rep for C2K and one of the 49ers....do you remember the law suit? Anyway, John and I are still good friends. In fact when I heard he was taking on the job again I offered to run an intervention on him.
BTW I totally agree with you about Delta's priorities with cash. Now they're saying they are going to give a percentage of their profits to charity. Seems like they should start with their own.
It's sad JM was ousted to be replaced by Moak. If JM was chairman at the time, I do not think there would have been anyway the termination of the DB plan would have happened. If JM has anything it's backbone. I am prejudiced though...we go a long way back. I was a Captain rep for C2K and one of the 49ers....do you remember the law suit? Anyway, John and I are still good friends. In fact when I heard he was taking on the job again I offered to run an intervention on him.
I said, "GOOD for John! FK them! WE have already given them ENOUGH!"
Well, it was too late, LM was in charge, and we were giving away more stuff, like our retirement and 15% more in pay.
Oh, I was also a 49'r, one of the 17 line pilots named in the suit, due to a post I put on the ALPA board, about the wh0res who were flying greenslips while Leo was dragging out our negotiations.
I think the line in that post that put me on the list was,
"If you can't live without a greenslip, you are Bushy's Beoch! He already owns you, and you are screwing the rest of us, who are NOT working overtime, and trying to get a better contract!"
03-30-2016, 10:43 AM
#8669
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03-30-2016, 05:35 PM
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"If you can't live without a greenslip, you are Bushy's Beoch! He already owns you, and you are screwing the rest of us, who are NOT working overtime, and trying to get a better contract!"[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed your entire post but the above statement caught my eye. As JM negotiates a new TA, it is the above availability of green slips and rolling thunder that will prevent any current deal from getting done. There's too many pilots jumping at the massive opportunities of overtime. Raises and QOL mean less. Now, if you leverage this ability to simply fly your "Normal" schedule, you will have the companies attention. Until then, business as usual with no urgency from Ed
I enjoyed your entire post but the above statement caught my eye. As JM negotiates a new TA, it is the above availability of green slips and rolling thunder that will prevent any current deal from getting done. There's too many pilots jumping at the massive opportunities of overtime. Raises and QOL mean less. Now, if you leverage this ability to simply fly your "Normal" schedule, you will have the companies attention. Until then, business as usual with no urgency from Ed
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