Delta Hiring News
02-21-2016, 03:36 PM
#8571
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,947
Make sure the app is absolutely 100% ready and published before they send in the rec. Don't rush to get it done. Do it right because of the 1-per-year rec/score. Lots of rumors about how to get multiple scores, but if you have a 100% app on the first time, it won't need to test that theory.
And, do you know if there is an unwritten suggested maximum frequency of a current pilot sending in a recommendation for applicants?
One rec a year? One rec every six months? One a month? Obviously one would not want to dilute the meaning of their recommendations, but I'm sure many can also think of more than just one or two people to recommend, and if they all meet the competitive interview minimums, then . . . ?
02-21-2016, 03:53 PM
#8572
Moderator
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 7,014
For my own education here: I have searched this thread and see multiple references to Delta tier 1/2/3 applicants, but little concretely defining them.
I did attend WAI last year and the Delta presentation there and remember many (but not all) of the criteria Delta prefers, but really cannot remember any mention there of the 'tier' system. Does that system really exist, or is it something invented on APC? If it really does exist, any pointers on figuring out where you fall?
I did attend WAI last year and the Delta presentation there and remember many (but not all) of the criteria Delta prefers, but really cannot remember any mention there of the 'tier' system. Does that system really exist, or is it something invented on APC? If it really does exist, any pointers on figuring out where you fall?
There is nothing mysterious, elitist, or evil about the "tier" system. It is just a way to sort through thousands of applications in a methodical fashion. The bottom line is that Delta and every other airline that is hiring has a method to determine who to call first - that is all the tier system is.
Get your App in, get an in house recommendation, stay current, and try to get as many qualifications as you can - that is all you can do.
Scoop
02-21-2016, 08:31 PM
#8573
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Transitioning
Posts: 84
Job Knowledge Test Outline
I gather that there's been an additional batch of 400 questions added to the pilot job knowledge test bank, and maybe a few cog test changes.
I would like to know if the seven page outline with a Delta header titled: "Pilot Job Knowledge Test Outline" is still a valid guide to focus the study. It lists four areas: Aero, Engineering, Air Nav, and Meteorology... At the end it has a list of suggested references.
Any readouts from recent interviewees, or additional study references, would be greatly appreciated.
I would like to know if the seven page outline with a Delta header titled: "Pilot Job Knowledge Test Outline" is still a valid guide to focus the study. It lists four areas: Aero, Engineering, Air Nav, and Meteorology... At the end it has a list of suggested references.
Any readouts from recent interviewees, or additional study references, would be greatly appreciated.
02-22-2016, 02:50 PM
#8574
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 272
Volunteering
Hello,
I am wondering what type of volunteering is valued for a prospective candidate. I teach Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in the kids program once or twice a week and was wondering how that would be perceived by the hiring panel. Thanks.
I am wondering what type of volunteering is valued for a prospective candidate. I teach Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in the kids program once or twice a week and was wondering how that would be perceived by the hiring panel. Thanks.
02-22-2016, 05:56 PM
#8575
Back on Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: A330 FO
Posts: 728
Make sure the app is absolutely 100% ready and published before they send in the rec. Don't rush to get it done. Do it right because of the 1-per-year rec/score. Lots of rumors about how to get multiple scores, but if you have a 100% app on the first time, it won't need to test that theory.
That's an applicant having their rec scored once per year?
And, do you know if there is an unwritten suggested maximum frequency of a current pilot sending in a recommendation for applicants?
One rec a year? One rec every six months? One a month? Obviously one would not want to dilute the meaning of their recommendations, but I'm sure many can also think of more than just one or two people to recommend, and if they all meet the competitive interview minimums, then . . . ?
And, do you know if there is an unwritten suggested maximum frequency of a current pilot sending in a recommendation for applicants?
One rec a year? One rec every six months? One a month? Obviously one would not want to dilute the meaning of their recommendations, but I'm sure many can also think of more than just one or two people to recommend, and if they all meet the competitive interview minimums, then . . . ?
Sorry I wasn't very clear. A DL pilot can submit a recommendation for a candidate (email that triggers the pull-and-score) only once per year for that candidate. (my understanding)
I don't know if sending the email for multiple candidates 'dilutes' their credibility. I'd think that if a current pilot recommended 10 candidates in a month and all 10 got job offers the hiring folks would greatly appreciate it. If, however, they recommended 10 and none of them met the minimums to trigger an invite,...I don't know.
On AirlineApps, a candidate can have as many recommendation letters, internal and external, as they can gather. I don't know how they all weigh out, though. i.e. external-flying, external non-fly, internal, etc. I imagine that the internals weigh more heavily than externals.
02-22-2016, 06:06 PM
#8576
Swearing at the FMA
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: MD-88 FO
Posts: 902
Sounds like good community involvement/mentoring to me. I would list it.
02-22-2016, 08:32 PM
#8577
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 456
Sorry I wasn't very clear. A DL pilot can submit a recommendation for a candidate (email that triggers the pull-and-score) only once per year for that candidate. (my understanding)
I don't know if sending the email for multiple candidates 'dilutes' their credibility. I'd think that if a current pilot recommended 10 candidates in a month and all 10 got job offers the hiring folks would greatly appreciate it. If, however, they recommended 10 and none of them met the minimums to trigger an invite,...I don't know.
On AirlineApps, a candidate can have as many recommendation letters, internal and external, as they can gather. I don't know how they all weigh out, though. i.e. external-flying, external non-fly, internal, etc. I imagine that the internals weigh more heavily than externals.
I don't know if sending the email for multiple candidates 'dilutes' their credibility. I'd think that if a current pilot recommended 10 candidates in a month and all 10 got job offers the hiring folks would greatly appreciate it. If, however, they recommended 10 and none of them met the minimums to trigger an invite,...I don't know.
On AirlineApps, a candidate can have as many recommendation letters, internal and external, as they can gather. I don't know how they all weigh out, though. i.e. external-flying, external non-fly, internal, etc. I imagine that the internals weigh more heavily than externals.
02-23-2016, 02:49 AM
#8578
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 185
02-23-2016, 04:40 AM
#8579
Otto
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: Turkish Pile Driver
Posts: 1,806
Plus the ability to choke out customers on a moment's notice is always helpful.
02-23-2016, 05:09 AM
#8580
China Visa Applicant
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Midfield downwind
Posts: 1,930
I gather that there's been an additional batch of 400 questions added to the pilot job knowledge test bank, and maybe a few cog test changes.
I would like to know if the seven page outline with a Delta header titled: "Pilot Job Knowledge Test Outline" is still a valid guide to focus the study. It lists four areas: Aero, Engineering, Air Nav, and Meteorology... At the end it has a list of suggested references.
Any readouts from recent interviewees, or additional study references, would be greatly appreciated.
I would like to know if the seven page outline with a Delta header titled: "Pilot Job Knowledge Test Outline" is still a valid guide to focus the study. It lists four areas: Aero, Engineering, Air Nav, and Meteorology... At the end it has a list of suggested references.
Any readouts from recent interviewees, or additional study references, would be greatly appreciated.
Yes, the questions seem to have changed, BUT Delta did not send out a different study guide.
Additionally, although the 4 Feb class seems to have taken a hit in terms of who was/wasn't hired the first time they sprung the new test questions, people HAVE passed the test and been hired on subsequent interview dates.
The only logical inference I can make from that is that, yes, the new questions are, in general, on the same topics and of similar style to the old questions.
If the questions were on some new, off-the-wall topics, we wouldn't see pilots who'd been prepping using the old material passing the new test.
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