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05-24-2015, 10:15 AM
#8051
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
So I'm just curious about something. I received a fix-it email a year and a half ago for education. I received my Bachelor's in two years of college, I had CLEP'd the first two years. I didn't think about four years as being a min, maybe I shot myself in the foot by just resubmitting with just the two years of college listed (and my elementary, junior high and high school years).
05-24-2015, 10:24 AM
#8052
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
We should be able to non-rev list with a move up to the JS if the back is full, thus preserving our cabin priority etc. but so far we can't.
This is a long standing IT issue. You are not supposed to "dual list". You either have to choose one, or talk to the gate agent and if they are awesome (many are) you can say "here's my listing but if I can't get on I'd like to list for the JS" or something like that. You could still get burned by a company pilot actually booking it, but that should at least protect you from an OAL walk up. However, if you really need to go and the JS is available, just book it and you own it.
However sometimes company pilots don't show, so if you're listed in the back because of that you could still get burned by an OAL who nabs the JS at the last second and runs down the jetbridge and gets the JS on a full flight leaving you stranded before you even realize what's going on. We need an IT fix to address this, so for now a good gate agent and/or extreme situational awareness on your part is the only defense.
05-24-2015, 11:31 AM
#8053
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Airplane
Posts: 2,385
I don't think that's the case. You still obviously listed a BA/BS degree, so less than 4 years shouldn't be a negative in the slightest and will most likely be a positive. While most take around 4, its not that uncommon for people to finish in less than 4 years. They know that. CLEP'ing in 2 is impressive.
CLEP'ing the first two years of college wasn't all that hard. A couple of High School classes had counted with college credit as well. CLEPs, college credit classes in High School and AFROTC classes counting towards my degree, wasn't hard doing my Bachelor's in two years.
05-24-2015, 01:48 PM
#8054
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: retired 767(dl)
Posts: 5,761
LOL, no. All using one does is put you ahead of the S3's. However, those S3's that were ahead of you almost always also have S2's, and can change quickly to that. Its not uncommon to see 20+ people standing by for 2 seats, all 20 of which burned an S2 in a war of attrition. Sometimes people even wait til the last minute to list, to see if they want to use an S2 or S3, so they don't even show up on the standby list until almost time to board.
S2's can help in some situations sometimes, but they are nowhere remotely close to positive space.
S2's can help in some situations sometimes, but they are nowhere remotely close to positive space.
05-24-2015, 06:39 PM
#8055
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: 320B
Posts: 454
In your exact example, you would "flow back" to an open cabin seat if there is one. However once you book the jumpseat its yours, and if you lose out to the FAA or some other higher priority (it won't be a line pilot as once you book it seniority has nothing to do with it) you will get a cabin seat.
We should be able to non-rev list with a move up to the JS if the back is full, thus preserving our cabin priority etc. but so far we can't.
This is a long standing IT issue. You are not supposed to "dual list". You either have to choose one, or talk to the gate agent and if they are awesome (many are) you can say "here's my listing but if I can't get on I'd like to list for the JS" or something like that. You could still get burned by a company pilot actually booking it, but that should at least protect you from an OAL walk up. However, if you really need to go and the JS is available, just book it and you own it.
However sometimes company pilots don't show, so if you're listed in the back because of that you could still get burned by an OAL who nabs the JS at the last second and runs down the jetbridge and gets the JS on a full flight leaving you stranded before you even realize what's going on. We need an IT fix to address this, so for now a good gate agent and/or extreme situational awareness on your part is the only defense.
We should be able to non-rev list with a move up to the JS if the back is full, thus preserving our cabin priority etc. but so far we can't.
This is a long standing IT issue. You are not supposed to "dual list". You either have to choose one, or talk to the gate agent and if they are awesome (many are) you can say "here's my listing but if I can't get on I'd like to list for the JS" or something like that. You could still get burned by a company pilot actually booking it, but that should at least protect you from an OAL walk up. However, if you really need to go and the JS is available, just book it and you own it.
However sometimes company pilots don't show, so if you're listed in the back because of that you could still get burned by an OAL who nabs the JS at the last second and runs down the jetbridge and gets the JS on a full flight leaving you stranded before you even realize what's going on. We need an IT fix to address this, so for now a good gate agent and/or extreme situational awareness on your part is the only defense.
05-24-2015, 06:51 PM
#8056
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
05-24-2015, 07:06 PM
#8057
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: 320B
Posts: 454
05-24-2015, 07:08 PM
#8058
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: Delta chihuahua Capt.
Posts: 462
LOL, no. All using one does is put you ahead of the S3's. However, those S3's that were ahead of you almost always also have S2's, and can change quickly to that. Its not uncommon to see 20+ people standing by for 2 seats, all 20 of which burned an S2 in a war of attrition. Sometimes people even wait til the last minute to list, to see if they want to use an S2 or S3, so they don't even show up on the standby list until almost time to board.
S2's can help in some situations sometimes, but they are nowhere remotely close to positive space.
S2's can help in some situations sometimes, but they are nowhere remotely close to positive space.
05-25-2015, 01:01 AM
#8060
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,012
Jumpseat reservations can be made online or via an automated phone system starting at 1200 Eastern with the following lead times:
Traveling TO work: 5.5 days in advance
Traveling FROM work: 3.5 days in advance
Personal travel: 1.5 days in advance
This arrangement removes a LOT of the commuting stress one would otherwise have if seniority ruled the jumpseat (like it does at some other airlines).
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