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Old 08-08-2013, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Airfix
I'm trying to figure out all the flow language, when hiring from the streets will likely happen and if I'll regret my decision not to apply to Compass in 2009.

From what I can see reading all the relevant posts:

· Delta to hire 300 pilots through 2014.
· There are 200 Delta pilots on furlough bypass.
· 144 Delta pilots have contacted the company about returning.
· There are 88 Mesaba pilots eligible for flow.
· There are approximately 100 pilots from Compass eligible for flow per year (25% of 400 pilots per year).
· There are 316 compass pilots eligible for flow.
· Pinnacle (Endeavor) is guaranteed 1/3rd of all new hire slots not covered by compass or mesaba not to exceed 12 per month.
· 35% of new hires must come from ALPA carriers.
· Hiring will be about 50 per month.
· The first classes will be filled by the Delta pilots on furlough bypass.
· Compass is guaranteed the first 20 slots per month.
· Mesaba is guaranteed the next 9 slots per month.

So for a class of 50 (non-bypass) 29 are flow, 7 are Pinnacle (21/3) and so that leaves 14 slots for the rest of us including the non ALPA carriers.

So running the numbers if 50 are hired per month it could go like this:

Month 1 - 50 Bypass
Month 2 - 50 Bypass
Month 3 - 44 Bypass, 6 Compass
Month 4 - 20 Compass, 9 Mesaba, 7 Pinnacle, 14 street
Month 5 - 20 Compass, 9 Mesaba, 7 Pinnacle, 14 street
Month 6 - 20 Compass, 9 Mesaba, 7 Pinnacle, 14 street

So it seems there will only be 42 true street hires next year to Delta.

If hiring continues at 50 per month by month 13 (Nov 2014) all Mesaba flows will be complete and by month 39 (Jan 2017) all Compass flows will be complete.

I put everything in a spreadsheet and compared it to the Delta retirement numbers. There are many obvious assumptions in this spreadsheet which I’m not going to list as this is just a quick look to see what the numbers look like.

Now I need to figure out how to be one of the lucky 42 in 2014 without any turbine PIC time let alone space shuttle time



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305 are still eligible (approx 450 pilots on the seniority list), and the company is telling us 115 will flow in the first six months of hiring after the recalls.

I also had heard that only about 100 were accepting recall. That and only the first couple of months classes were going to be 50, after that the classes were going to be smaller. Subject to change.
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Old 08-09-2013, 02:35 AM
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Less than 100 furlough bypass have expressed interest in returning.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:02 AM
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Does any one know the date the furlough bypass have until to say they are coming back?
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:13 AM
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I thought I read in a company email somewhere they had to reply by the end of August. I think it said they had 30 days to respond, and the letters (and phone calls) were supposed to be all sent out by July 31.
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I know Delta is the only "real' airline on these forums, but shouldn't this as well as a few other threads be under the Hiring News section? My two cents.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by grahamlax
I could be wrong, but I believe that pinnacle only has guaranteed interviews not actual flow (guaranteed jobs)
Correct. No individual Pinnacle pilot has anything more than a guaranteed interview. However, the Pinnacle pilot group is promised one third of the slots available after the Compass and Mesaba flow guys.

Question for any Compass guy...Are you hearing anything about being held back at Compass for six months like they did last time we hired?
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotrob23
I know Delta is the only "real' airline on these forums, but shouldn't this as well as a few other threads be under the Hiring News section? My two cents.
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by grahamlax
I could be wrong, but I believe that pinnacle only has guaranteed interviews not actual flow (guaranteed jobs)
Pretty good news..... street hires will be low relatively, but I would guess 70-90 total in 2014.
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by workingforfree
Pretty good news..... street hires will be low relatively, but I would guess 70-90 total in 2014.
If they stick to the 300 that won't happen.

~ 100 recalls
115 CP
68 Mesaba
12 a month for Pinnacle
~300

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Old 08-09-2013, 04:58 AM
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I though the Endevour deal was just for guaranteed interviews not guaranteed hire. I guess I heard wrong.
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