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Old 03-26-2015, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TeddyKGB
True but who wants to lose out on thousands of seniority #'s. Now is the time to get on because no one knows if we will be a 13,000 pilot airline 10-15 years from now. Could be 10,000 or could be 15,000. Every number counts.
I never had a seniority number over 1200, yet I flew crap most of my career. 1am reports, five day turns, I thought about opening a Dunkin' Doughnut shop in Evansville I was there so much. Highlight was Shakey's Pizza in LIT. All part of the circus. Last two years I got to fly the all-nighter LAX/SJU.... It is still the best job on the planet, regardless. Did I mention the dancing girls in the back?
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Old 03-27-2015, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kjazz130
Hey all,

First time posting. I have been "watching" for a while. I published my apps the first week of Feb. My internal email was sent on about the 13th of March. I received the invite to interview on 24 March. I am scheduled for my interview on 7 May. I was posting to see if anyone else had an interview that day. I think I have all the gouge, if anyone needs something let me know. Here is my resume for those who are curious.

TT 2500
PIC 1450
ME/Turbine 2250
Instructor 815
Mil C-21 and C-130
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Masters 3.9
Undergrad 2.5
Hign School 3.7
Std awards and schools for Mil

If anyone has questions reply or PM me.
Kjazz - What was your availability date?
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Old 03-27-2015, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lear700pilot
Now gloopy, you know us up tight pilots are literal in everything we do .



I completely understand what you are saying, but here is the delima for many of us. We have had our apps in for years (7+) and have been talking to so many and trying the networking approach to our best. We've also been to all the career fairs, conventions, etc and stood in line to speak to the Delta people. Some of us just want Delta so much that we have exhausted all we know how to. We've taken the upgrade at first grab, done admin, training, volunteering, etc. to get our resumes where they need to be. All the while others around us are getting the invite and some have more, but some have less experience. Several of these by the way aren't near as ambitious and could care less if the went to DAL, UAL, AA, SWA, etc.



I for one don't envy AK and his selection team at all because how do you choose a few at a time when there are so many to choose from?



We want to be on the side of the fence as guys like you looking over, but there are times when we wonder when it will come and when it does come how much seniority will we have lost.



My point was to state what was said. Truthfully if I hear that they are looking at something and they expect it from a certain group in the industry to have, but outside of our control we can't attain it, it is a little discouraging. At the conventions they say "just become a LCA", already tried that any and every way I know how - just won't happen due to a shrinking company.



Anyway, I and many wish it was different, but hopefully those of us who are deeply pursuing and been doing so for years will get noticed. I rest my case .

Love this post. I starting feeling like I was the only one having a pity party over here. (I don't mean that in a hateful way). Three parts that stick out:

1.) App in for 7+yrs. I'm with you. The poster above puts his app in and within a month gets an invite but we are just sitting over here twiddling our thumbs for years.

2.) "Just become an LCA..." Such an ignorant statement from people that know how this industry works. Yeah, I'm not an LCA because I chose not to be! I personally want to be one and have almost every LCA in my base willing to go to bat for me but the company will never let me be one because of being a union committee chairman. So yeah...volunteer vs LCA.

3.) The "I don't care where I go" attitude. These people are getting pulled up and they couldn't care less. Me...Delta has been my whole life's work. I literally have routed everything I have ever done to be a Delta pilot. Unfortunately for me, I listened to some advice early on from some Delta management people and did what they said and it has come back to bite me. (Not going to an aviation university because "I just needed a 4yr degree in anything".) In their defense, 10yrs ago there hiring wasn't like it was now. I am a legacy and up until 2012, legacy's were held really high and most early classes were filled with them. Now, they have removed the legacy option from the app and it really doesn't get you anywhere.
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Old 03-27-2015, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407
Love this post. I starting feeling like I was the only one having a pity party over here. (I don't mean that in a hateful way). Three parts that stick out:

1.) App in for 7+yrs. I'm with you. The poster above puts his app in and within a month gets an invite but we are just sitting over here twiddling our thumbs for years.

2.) "Just become an LCA..." Such an ignorant statement from people that know how this industry works. Yeah, I'm not an LCA because I chose not to be! I personally want to be one and have almost every LCA in my base willing to go to bat for me but the company will never let me be one because of being a union committee chairman. So yeah...volunteer vs LCA.

3.) The "I don't care where I go" attitude. These people are getting pulled up and they couldn't care less. Me...Delta has been my whole life's work. I literally have routed everything I have ever done to be a Delta pilot. Unfortunately for me, I listened to some advice early on from some Delta management people and did what they said and it has come back to bite me. (Not going to an aviation university because "I just needed a 4yr degree in anything".) In their defense, 10yrs ago there hiring wasn't like it was now. I am a legacy and up until 2012, legacy's were held really high and most early classes were filled with them. Now, they have removed the legacy option from the app and it really doesn't get you anywhere.

Clearly, he's military. Not saying anything against Delta. However, that's what they prefer.
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:27 AM
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Just remember what Glopy said. The next few years will become much more applicant friendly.

I know it's frustrating, I'm all civilian, CRJ hour check airman with about 11K tt, 7K jet pic, BS degree, internal hr email, application reviewed by a consultant, etc...

No call.

But I know that they value and prefer the military guys right now. I don't necessarily agree (since I'm not military), but I get it. Military guys and gals are a known quantity for the most part. AK knows what they've done in training, records are complete, and knows that they work hard.
Most civilian pilots can say the same thing... But to AK the military guys are a safer bet.

Over the next decade the turnover at Delta will be something like 70%. AK is tasked with the responsibility to ensure that their culture isn't lost during this process. The guys he hires now will be the captains when the tier 3 guys start to get called, and he wants to make sure the culture remains tier 1.

Just my opinion.

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Old 03-27-2015, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BrasiliaFlyer
Just remember what Glopy said. The next few years will become much more applicant friendly.

I know it's frustrating, I'm all civilian, CRJ hour check airman with about 11K tt, 7K jet pic, BS degree, internal hr email, application reviewed by a consultant, etc...

No call.

But I know that they value and prefer the military guys right now. I don't necessarily agree (since I'm not military), but I get it. Military guys and gals are a known quantity for the most part. AK knows what they've done in training, records are complete, and knows that they work hard.
Most civilian pilots can say the same thing... But to AK the military guys are a safer bet.

Over the next decade the turnover at Delta will be something like 70%. AK is tasked with the responsibility to ensure that their culture isn't lost during this process. The guys he hires now will be the captains when the tier 3 guys start to get called, and he wants to make sure the culture remains tier 1.

Just my opinion.

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I keep hearing this argument. I understand it's easier to vet military guys, but they make it seem that civvies aren't documented or something. Have they ever heard of Simuflite or Flight Safety? There's your documents right there.
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:38 AM
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Kjazz - What was your availability date?
I had my availability for Friday of the week my internal email was sent. The next Monday I moved it to that Friday. I used that as my reminder to update my app once a week with hours and a new availability date.
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kjazz130
I had my availability for Friday of the week my internal email was sent. The next Monday I moved it to that Friday. I used that as my reminder to update my app once a week with hours and a new availability date.
congrats...guess im not competitive enough yet...had my internal sent last week in feb and still hearing crickets...only 2100 TT, heavy ip, and just over 100 hours of 121 time now....the fight continues!
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:50 AM
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congrats...guess im not competitive enough yet...had my internal sent last week in feb and still hearing crickets...only 2100 TT, heavy ip, and just over 100 hours of 121 time now....the fight continues!
Those aren't bad numbers. How much PIC?
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Old 03-27-2015, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Kjazz130
Those aren't bad numbers. How much PIC?
1020 PIC, 870 TPIC....with no sortie conversion
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