Firefly899

I was wondering the same. Failed my initial CFI practical under 141. Just got an unsat on the lesson. I have been told that I needed to pull a PRIA report from there to see what it reported as. Just taking the honesty side. All my apps are in anywhere so I feel kinda weird going back and adjusting my response after the fact. I am assuming a record of revision is kept for all profiles.

gloopy

Actually I'd say that DL uses far, far less of a "group hug" mentality in interview and selection than a lot of other airlines out there. They don't have a sim ride but they have a fairly intensive series of cog, psych and knowledge testing and a pretty comprehensive panel interview (and until recently a rediculously intensive physical). It has always been far from a backslapping yuck fest, especially compared to some of the "culture" airlines out there.

All airlines these days probably use some degree of "targeted selection" but I'd say the "group hug" quotient is less in the DL process than pretty much any other place.

I think somewhere around 100% of airlines now ask some questions about customer relations. Try telling any of them your answer to a customer's question would be "not my problem I'm just paid to operate this thing, goodbye" and see how far you get.

Mesabah

We have 700+ pilots at 9E that have a free interview, but are not applying because they are afraid to, and/or not ready. That doesn't seem like a "group hug" interview to me.

tunes

Put it...AK said himself in the brief at WIA that do not care at all about an initial cfi failure because they know it's a right of passage basically


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John Carr

True, but now with a 6 month reattempt versus the previous year.

Again, true. However now, candidates are getting redos on part of the extensive psyche portion in numbers way way above previous. Being told HOW TO ANSWER the second time around so as to conform. Where previous it was a small portion being given the benefit of the doubt that they were "projecting", or just being weeded out.

It's not like;

1) They are desparate, YET
2) There's no lack of very qualified people still left go through.

May not be a full on hug yet, but maybe an awkward a$$ out hug possibly?

And IIRC, circa 2010, the physical really wasn't that extensive, just a standard 1st class. Not like the AA 80's-90's legendary astronaught physical.

gloopy

The physical was always an insane balls out NASA astronaut physical administered by a back alley occupational health clinic that mostly did pee tests and workers comp exams. Few if any washed out, but they took it upon themselves to create a mandate to delay and harass anyone and everyone they could. In some cases the non AME morons would notify the FAA about their "concerns" even if it was something 100% reported and documented to the feds all along. They were idiots and bullys and were taking it upon themselves to do way more than what they ever were supposed to. They didn't know how to take blood, they didn't know how to do EKG's, and they harassed a lot of pilots about known and reported issues. Good riddance.

I doubt there is an AME in the country that has ever did 1/4 as much of what those non AMEs did.

captkdobbs

Just for trivia's sake, would you care to guess the number 1 checkride failure?: the initial CFI.

Just remember the formula: These are the facts, it was my fault, I learned from it and didn't repeat the error.

John Carr

Like I said, 2010, not so much IIRC. Standard 1st class. No cavity search/rectal exam/poop in a box stuff.

AeroCrewSolut

Get the word out that they better apply soon. Once the last person on the seniority list is offered an interview, the SSP agreement ends.

lear700pilot

Please don't mention it to them!!!!! Guys like me and so many others don't want any more competition holding us back from an invite.