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Old 03-09-2015, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ExAF
I can't see a lot of retired airline pilots going to 91/135 where they will have to kiss someone's @ss as part of the job description. Personally, when I retire from the airlines, I'm gonna be no kidding RETIRED!

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Old 03-09-2015, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by cessnamann
In another forum there is a thread saying Delta recruiters at a recent job fair said an applicant is not required to disclose checkride failures on the application, if they were under part 141 (including end of course rides) and there wasn't a pink slip issued. Has anyone else heard this from Delta recruiters?
I'd be very wary to take this advice. On the app, as of last year, there were two questions specifically regarding failures. One was phrased 'ever been removed from flight status, downgraded, or failed any portion of flight training either civilian or military?' That's a pretty good catch-all question.

Now, is there a record of an unsat 141 phase check? Maybe not, but I'd be willing to bet that your logbook has two endorsements for the same phase check; once for the unsat and then a second one for the retake.

A failed checkride is not a showstopper. It's almost guaranteed to come up in the interview, and the interviewers will just want to know how you handled it. "These are the facts surrounding the unsat. I accept responsibility for my performance. (don't ever blame it on the examiner or play the 'he was out to get me' card) This is what I learned from the event. I applied that knowledge to all subsequent rides and you'll notice I didn't duplicate that error." Even if you have more than one ding, handle it the same way. (hopefully you don't have more than one unsat for the exact same issue)

Think of it as an interview opportunity: 1) You know it'll come up. 2) Be prepared to handle it with confidence (not get defensive) and 3) Think of it as 5 minutes of the interview that you don't need to be nervous about because you know it's coming, and you know how to handle it.
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Old 03-09-2015, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
*** are you trying to say?
In this modern age and era of touchy-feely hiring practices and progressive terms, the satire of an old/outdated term wasn't enough for you to get it?

Originally Posted by ExAF
I can't see a lot of retired airline pilots going to 91/135 where they will have to kiss someone's @ss as part of the job description. Personally, when I retire from the airlines, I'm gonna be no kidding RETIRED!
Agreed, "a lot" would be a stretch.

Howwever, pre age 65 there were retired guys that went to
work at the fractionals. Wasn't uncommon. And that's about as customer service orientated as regular 92/135.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cessnamann
In another forum there is a thread saying Delta recruiters at a recent job fair said an applicant is not required to disclose checkride failures on the application, if they were under part 141 (including end of course rides) and there wasn't a pink slip issued. Has anyone else heard this from Delta recruiters?
Read the question again, then give the the answer you think is correct on your app. If you get interviewed, you can then see if your understanding of the interview matches that of the hiring panel.
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LibertyPilot
Perhaps a bit of an abstract philosophy, I'll grant you guys that.....I wrote this after waking up and before coffee. All I am saying is that if the experienced corporate guys were all getting sucked up by the majors, a lot of owners would prefer to fly on the airlines where pilots with all backgrounds that have high level experience rather than staffing their jet with two guys under 500 hours.

To be honest I see a future where many retired airline pilots will be highly desired in 91/135 as this hiring boom continues.
They can select any of the thousands of regional guys that would take a corp job in a heartbeat.
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:10 PM
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Anyone receive an invite lately? How often do the emails go out?
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
They can select any of the thousands of regional guys that would take a corp job in a heartbeat.
I can pretty much guarantee we're not interested in 'em. Neither is 95% of the owners. No one is gonna pay 200K for a inexperienced guy with no international experience to fly his brand 60 million dollar jet.

I don't know about a** kissing, either. My boss and I are at loggerheads about once a week.
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
I can pretty much guarantee we're not interested in 'em. Neither is 95% of the owners. No one is gonna pay 200K for a inexperienced guy with no international experience to fly his brand 60 million dollar jet.

I don't know about a** kissing, either. My boss and I are at loggerheads about once a week.
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We've had hundreds of guys leave for corporate. I turned down a citation job a few years back.
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:44 PM
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I've seen some pretty sporty approaches flown into SUN and MMH in those fancy private jets. Must be all the international experience
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Old 03-09-2015, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Maybe on Citations, not do much on GLEX and G550. SUN and MMH sounds like charter guys who'll do anything.

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