Tee1Up

I'm not sure if you're adding a little sarcasm here with the Mother Teresa thing, so if that's the case, than I will apologize up front. But this is a difficult subject for a lot of folks on the outside looking in.

Many applicants are busy (cross-country commutes to reserve, military reserve duty, family commitments, etc) and think that what is done in the limited time at home outside of work doesn't constitute "volunteer work." I would encourage everyone with that mentality to think outside the box on this question when it comes up.

Do you help out with your kids' sports teams? Volunteer work. Do you participate in your kids' school (PTSO, fundraisers, etc)? Volunteer work. What about your church if that's your flavor? Volunteer work. Do you do stuff at your current job that is outside of the scope of your flight duties and what you get paid for (committees, etc.)? That's also volunteer work.

My point is, there is a lot of stuff that you probably already do that you would never think to take credit for. You do it because you care about it and because your family is involved in it or it makes a difference for your co-workers. That stuff counts. It's sometimes hard to quantify "volunteer work" because you don't think about the stuff that means something to you and the people that you do it for.

All they care about is that you make an effort to make a difference...somewhere. It might be very close to home for you, but you're still making a difference. If they hire you as a Delta Air Lines pilot, THAT makes an impression on them because people that you affect with your time will now associate YOU with THEM. That's what counts. So don't discount those "everyday things" that you do on your application. Put it in there, and let them sort it out.

That's my two cents on that....apologies if I misunderstood your point on that Galaxy Flyer.

Paok

Word from Delta booth was you "need 3,000-4,000 hours as a mil only" in order to be competitive. 😒 Funny they called me with 2300 in 2013... And a friend with 1700 recently hired at Delta...

galaxy flyer

No, but I have an idea! Can you credit attendance at a "singles dance" or the Spring Street Ballet? Subtle ATL reference.

Tee1Up,

It was some sarcasm, some note on the reality of life. Your point is well taken for families, I'm sure. But, I'd sure hate to commute to a regional job; sit on reserve after spending gazillion dollars on college and flight training only to be told you didn't do enough outside volunteer stuff. Different generation, I suppose, on my part.

GF

badflaps

PC gonna get us all........

BrasiliaFlyer

Huh? What about us regional guys?

Smooth at FL450

The recruiter I spoke with had zero military...so I'm guessing someone's leg is being pulled? I hope...

ACE9999

Where are new hires being based and what aircraft?

gloopy

Everywhere and almost all of them.

Srsly.

ER and below, and pretty much every base. If not out the gate (due to class and/or your seniority in class), then right after your 1 year freeze is up.

lear700pilot

Regional guys that have gotten the call - white male 6-7k hrs. Minority groups get a call with 4-5k. I am not trying to use the discrimination card here, but just stating facts. There are variables here, but this is the average. AK even stated of the ones they hired in 2014 17% fit the minority bracket. They have to hire a certain number of minorities to keep gov attention off of them.

Remember the above info is just averages. If you have other great stuff on your record you may get pulled with much less. Also, AK stated education is important to DAL when picking an applicant. They want to see:
GOOD GPA - 2.5 min 3.0 preferred,
Well known university,
He said college in 5 years or less, but also stated they are seeing many that have taken longer.


Also, AK stated "the minimum for recency of experience needs to be 100 hrs in the last year. This is to help the military guys that don't fly much."

One guy asked AK "what is the preferred amount of hours in the last year for civ only regional guys?" AK stated "preferred 400-500 hours in the last year knowing the number of legs they typically do a day". That guy that asked the question stated he only got 300 hrs the last year due to being on reserve, but was dead heading a lot and couldn't control his schedule. AK said "300 hrs would be fine", but that seemed contrary to his initial statement.

John Carr

But you're also outside the majority demographic.

Sorry to break it to you, but it DOES happen.