Delta Hiring News
07-30-2013, 07:16 PM
#692
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It's not likely to change. Two reasons:
1) Management bean counters do not like to pay pilots one penny more than necessary. New pilots are just happy to have been hired and they pay for the crash pad with very little complaining so the company figures why should we pay it?
2) Even among the pilots in management, its the old, "We all had to pay when we got hired, so why should this generation of new guys be any different?"
Its kinda weird. The same Delta captains who think its OK to have new hires spring for a crash pad in training would never let a probie pay for a beer on a layover.
An old Atlanta thing I guess.
(also remember in your interview: If the guy asks you how to spell dogs, it's "Dawgs".)
1) Management bean counters do not like to pay pilots one penny more than necessary. New pilots are just happy to have been hired and they pay for the crash pad with very little complaining so the company figures why should we pay it?
2) Even among the pilots in management, its the old, "We all had to pay when we got hired, so why should this generation of new guys be any different?"
Its kinda weird. The same Delta captains who think its OK to have new hires spring for a crash pad in training would never let a probie pay for a beer on a layover.
An old Atlanta thing I guess.
(also remember in your interview: If the guy asks you how to spell dogs, it's "Dawgs".)
07-30-2013, 08:10 PM
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07-30-2013, 08:12 PM
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07-30-2013, 08:29 PM
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I don't see why people are making a big deal out of it. It takes about 8 weeks to finish initial training. 2 of those weeks your hotel is provided. So that's about 6 weeks out of a 30ish year career. Talk about not seeing the forest because of the trees.
A high school friend offered for me to crash at his place for the rest of the time. Didn't cost me a dime. I extended the same offer to friends that got hired once I moved to ATL and will continue to do so.
07-30-2013, 08:41 PM
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But the concept could also be extended other things that didn't change until relatively recently on average. Things like 1st year pay, reserve rules, etc.
They're way better now than ever before for the most part. But it was a rather long time coming at some places.
07-30-2013, 08:44 PM
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I think you're missing the point 80kts...sure it's a great career, but we want to hire the best and brightest pilots then we treat them this way? when a regional and basically every other airline will pay for your hotel? doesn't add up. this is some old school BS from back in the day when people had to pay to get a flying job.
07-30-2013, 08:50 PM
#699
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What bojangles said.
But the concept could also be extended other things that didn't change until relatively recently on average. Things like 1st year pay, reserve rules, etc.
They're way better now than ever before for the most part. But it was a rather long time coming at some places.
But the concept could also be extended other things that didn't change until relatively recently on average. Things like 1st year pay, reserve rules, etc.
They're way better now than ever before for the most part. But it was a rather long time coming at some places.
The reason I said what I did to your "pulling up the rope" comment is because the phrase didn't apply to this situation. I get your sentiment, but the rope can't be pulled up if it was never dropped in the first place.
07-30-2013, 08:52 PM
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I think you're missing the point 80kts...sure it's a great career, but we want to hire the best and brightest pilots then we treat them this way? when a regional and basically every other airline will pay for your hotel? doesn't add up. this is some old school BS from back in the day when people had to pay to get a flying job.
And yep, the legacy is the "brass ring" so speak. There will ALWAYS be people that have ZERO reservation about dealing with things not found in just about any other job.
To bring it back to a previous point, CAL circa 2005 till everybody else started hiring was "the place to be" for many. Sure, it's a legacy airline. But the contract sucked, the pay sucked, no health insurance for 6 months sucked, the bases sucked, and the management was trending towards the non labor friendly style they have now. And plenty of people that let CAL pay for their 737 type rating as well as hotel so they could put the app in at SouthWest.
Yet never anywhere near a shortage of applicants.
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