TeddyKGB

Ok, then lets see it.

TeddyKGB

I wasn't talking about SSP, I was talking about flows. I still don't buy that there is any "vault" letter. If there is one lets see it. I don't know of a single SSP hired that doesn't have a 4 year degree.

Alan Shore

It is my understanding that flow-eligible pilots from Compass are not required to hold a 4-year degree, while flow-eligible pilots from Mesaba are required to hold a 4-year degree to flow.

Are you saying that all flow-eligible Compass pilots happen to have a 4-year degree?

Scoop

My fault - I lumped the Flows with the SSP folks - I should have differentiated. But I still believe that people are eligible from both without the degree. OBTW, I wish you were correct and we had one set of hiring "minimums."

Scoop

FlynChick

Ignoring the need/historical data on SSP/Flows and their degrees (since it doesn't apply to you), yes you want to have finished College in a reasonable amount of time. I did take college credit courses in HS, but the computer system should know that high school and college courses overlapping time frames is because of that reason alone, so it shouldn't "rate" your timeframe as overly long.

Another new hire pilot and myself both did our bachelors in 5 years at an accredited school. Me for financial reasons, his for medical. Nobody asked in either of our interview.

Good luck.

bohicagain

To get hired back in 07 at Compass a 4 year degree was a requirement. That said I belive out of all 400 eligible flow pilots less than 10 did not have 4 year degrees.

UnusualAttitude

That is incorrect. A four year degree did not become a requirement at Compass until Delta became more involved operationally, possibly SOC. I believe it was late '08 or early '09. I was hired in '08 and flew with a handful of Captain's that were hired in '07 that did not have degrees. As to your number of less than 10 out of 400, I have no idea. I think it is more than that but most definitely still a very small minority.

CPZ hiring MINIMUMS matched NWA at the time, keeping in mind that NWA did not have college degree listed as a minimum pre-merger. I doubt very many were hired without it, but it wasn't an explicit requirement like DAL. CPZ mins were changed to match DAL's at some point.

UA

**This has been hashed out on here before but the structure of the XJ Flow and the CP Flow was very different. Associated risks and rewards were different and language was certainly different.

bohicagain

I could have sworn that it was. I was hired in Fall of 07 and almost all the guys near my seniority had degrees.

You are probably right it must have been preferred not required

UnusualAttitude

I think it was very difficult to get hired without the degree. You either needed to be a former ACA/Indy pilot with contacts in IAD or live in MSP and be very experienced. Like I said, I am sure that almost all of the guys probably had the degree. It just wasn't a requirement and some made it without the degree.

I remember this because during the time post sale of CPZ to TSH I flew with some guys who were worried that the language was going to be changed to "flows must meet all current DAL hiring minimums" which is similar to XJ's, and these CA's were worried they would have to somehow finish college while flying at CPZ to flow to DAL. That language did not come in to the sunset agreement however.

UA

Mesabah

You have to ask your HR to see the letter, hence the term "vault letter". In fact, on the SSP Delta is not supposed to even talk about your education.