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Old 10-10-2014, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I did have a newhire in the jumpseat who spent 10 years at Skywest... only had one rec. He wasn't a check airman, but had plenty of jet PIC. I finally nailed it down how he got the call: He had started a program in his home town where he (and a few others) gave at risk youth private pilot ground school. At the culmination of the program, they took the students flying in a 172. Pretty cool, and he really set himself apart doing that. Take notes!

This is actually one of my very good friends you are referring to and he did get one of the first invites for an interview at Delta as a civilian. He said when he interviewed it was him with two women civilians and 5 military guys. Talk about standing out in the crowd. He actually had more to his application than just the teaching at risk children. He had 8,500 total hours and 10 years flying 121, 4000 TPIC, Graduated manga cum laude with a 3.9 GPA, Graduated in less than 4 years, no tickets or moving violations, never failed a checkride, several awards and scholarships as well. This is about as perfect as an applicant as you can get.

I finally have a friend that that got hired yesterday who is an fo. Again he actually has a very well rounded resume too. They are looking at an entire picture when they look at your app. Your GPA is not the single qualifier but it caries a lot of weight. The guy has no TPIC time which is frustrating to others but he has scholarships and awards as well as part of a safety audit program for a 121 carrier. His GPA is 3.7 and he is activity involved in the community.

Delta looks at the entire picture. For us civilians guys it could take awhile to get the call. As one guy stated, delta likes the military because they show a progression. They want the same thing from a civilian. They want to see progression. You don't want to be the average guy because they are not getting the call right now. I'd be willing to be bet most of the guys that have been hired are not just average or normal. Another 121 FO I know just got hired but his dad works at Delta. I don't believe delta is hiring anyone "normal" or "average" right now. Don't try and compare yourself to others or you will become frustrated. We all will get a chance to interview it's just a matter of time.
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Old 10-10-2014, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Flycameron
This is actually one of my very good friends you are referring to and he did get one of the first invites for an interview at Delta as a civilian. He said when he interviewed it was him with two women civilians and 5 military guys. Talk about standing out in the crowd. He actually had more to his application than just the teaching at risk children. He had 8,500 total hours and 10 years flying 121, 4000 TPIC, Graduated manga cum laude with a 3.9 GPA, Graduated in less than 4 years, no tickets or moving violations, never failed a checkride, several awards and scholarships as well. This is about as perfect as an applicant as you can get.

I finally have a friend that that got hired yesterday who is an fo. Again he actually has a very well rounded resume too. They are looking at an entire picture when they look at your app. Your GPA is not the single qualifier but it caries a lot of weight. The guy has no TPIC time which is frustrating to others but he has scholarships and awards as well as part of a safety audit program for a 121 carrier. His GPA is 3.7 and he is activity involved in the community.

Delta looks at the entire picture. For us civilians guys it could take awhile to get the call. As one guy stated, delta likes the military because they show a progression. They want the same thing from a civilian. They want to see progression. You don't want to be the average guy because they are not getting the call right now. I'd be willing to be bet most of the guys that have been hired are not just average or normal. Another 121 FO I know just got hired but his dad works at Delta. I don't believe delta is hiring anyone "normal" or "average" right now. Don't try and compare yourself to others or you will become frustrated. We all will get a chance to interview it's just a matter of time.
How much time did the FOs you know have?
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Old 10-10-2014, 07:45 AM
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Several of my co-workers at our current Regional have gotten the email invite. IMO, because the flows and SSP's are done for the year, civi guys stay close by your e-mail.

What hotels are close to the interview site? Any recommendations?
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Old 10-10-2014, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
How much time did the FOs you know have?
I'm not entirely sure about the FO who's dad works for delta and my friend as of recent had probably around 5,000 hours of total time.
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Old 10-10-2014, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Flycameron

I finally have a friend that that got hired yesterday who is an fo. Again he actually has a very well rounded resume too. They are looking at an entire picture when they look at your app. Your GPA is not the single qualifier but it caries a lot of weight. The guy has no TPIC time which is frustrating to others but he has scholarships and awards as well as part of a safety audit program for a 121 carrier. His GPA is 3.7 and he is activity involved in the community.
I believe I met this gentleman on his way out of town yesterday, seemed like a real nice guy. Couldn't figure out how he got the invite initially, but after finding out about his Safety department background, figured that was the thing...
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Old 10-10-2014, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
I think that being mil AND a regional guy was a big help.
I can neither confirm nor deny this directly, and I have absolutely no inside baseball to share. That said....

After having had my app in at Delta for nearly a year following my mil retirement (DL was the first I applied to, my first choice all along), I got my interview invite within days after I updated my app with 100 hours of Part 121 time. I was current when I retired (fortunate to have a flying job for my last assignment), so it wasn't "only" about that.

Related? No way for me to be certain, but the timing sure makes it look that way. Whenever any of my retiring/separating buds ask me, my advice is to apply where they want to end up, but also to apply "everywhere" and take the first offer, even if it's "only" a regional (for crap pay/schedule/QoL/ect.), in order to keep themselves atop the pile....
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
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Did you come from Compass or the SSP. Not to pick on you but I find it hard to believe with so many applications that don't have a suspended license in the history that you would get a call so early in the hiring wave.
No problem. Skywest guy here. No flow.
High GPA on BS and my MBA. I was just really stupid in high school with my motorcycle. Both wreckeless tickets were by pulling a weelie. If you drive on one wheel its considered wreckless.
I was very fortunate that Delta looks at the big picture.
Being married for 10 years, 3 beatiful kids, own a business, Masters degree, weekly community service, soccer and basketball coach for my kids sports, etc......8500TT, TPIC, 2 type rarings etc....They told me on my HR that they really like my MBA. (I believe thats what got me an invite, but who knows)
Im not bragging, just showing that I was glad they chose not to focus only on my 2 years of stupidity between 16-18, but evaluated the "whole picture".
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by slammer1906
What hotels are close to the interview site? Any recommendations?

Hilton Atlanta Airport, right across the street from the Mother Ship, so if all else fails (car breaks down, no car, taxi no-show, hotel shuttle no-show) you can walk to the interview in easily under 10 minutes.

Spend the $$$ for peace of mind. It's a small investment for a great future.

Hilton Atlanta Airport
1031 Virginia Ave, Atlanta, GA 30354
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:59 PM
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Does anybody know if corporate guys are getting calls? I've got some buddies that are currently doing corporate and I was curious if that hurt them too much. One guy flies a challenger 300 and he's pure corporate the whole way. The other guy flies a GIV and was a regional captain for a couple years but has been doing the GIV thing for about six now. Thanks for the info!
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
Hilton Atlanta Airport, right across the street from the Mother Ship, so if all else fails (car breaks down, no car, taxi no-show, hotel shuttle no-show) you can walk to the interview in easily under 10 minutes.

Spend the $$$ for peace of mind. It's a small investment for a great future.

Hilton Atlanta Airport
1031 Virginia Ave, Atlanta, GA 30354
Highly concur! Spend a few extra $$ and make it a stress free experience.
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