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10-09-2014, 04:29 PM
#5741
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Which brings me back to how is it that some people seem to need a PhD, 10,000 hours shuttle time a letter of rec from the president and still don't score enough to get a call, however suspended license, 2,000 hours and a gpa outside of the range that people in the know here say won't get you looked at and gets the call early on. Good for him, yes... However it makes some us wonder what is going on.
10-09-2014, 04:52 PM
#5742
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And if that is in fact the case, I would hope that he would add that in instead of There is hope for us normal people. I agree you should use every available asset and every month you don't get the call is another 115 seniority numbers. Guys come on here and post what credentials and how many LOR they had and if they were management LOR's. Then in a span of two to three pages you have a couple of guys saying how that they had wreckless driving convictions in their histories, suspended licenses and relatively low flight time and GPA's (something that all the people in the know are saying makes a difference) If they added in that they were former interns or had an LOR from RA it would make some sense, however as it stands it is way outside of what is considered the norm for getting an interview.
10-09-2014, 04:58 PM
#5743
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Just a little under half of my time is in fighters. The rest is a mixture AF student time, 141 flight instruction and regional time. I think that being mil AND a regional guy was a big help.
Crewdawg,
That is why I as the question. On this very thread you keep hearing about how they score your application then those that have the high score, whatever that is, get the call for an interview. With the creds you listed it doesn't jive with getting an interview at such a low amount of flight time.
I understand how people get to explain it to the interviewers, once they get the call. The question is how are they getting the call.
That is why I as the question. On this very thread you keep hearing about how they score your application then those that have the high score, whatever that is, get the call for an interview. With the creds you listed it doesn't jive with getting an interview at such a low amount of flight time.
I understand how people get to explain it to the interviewers, once they get the call. The question is how are they getting the call.
Which brings me back to how is it that some people seem to need a PhD, 10,000 hours shuttle time a letter of rec from the president and still don't score enough to get a call, however suspended license, 2,000 hours and a gpa outside of the range that people in the know here say won't get you looked at and gets the call early on. Good for him, yes... However it makes some us wonder what is going on.
They only people I know at Delta are a few F.O.s who are your average line guys. Not an intern.
10-09-2014, 08:05 PM
#5746
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I think its important to reiterate that Delta doesn't look for just pilots. If you get the call, they know you can fly.
It's the intangibles: leadership, honesty, humor, ease, no false confidence, that sorta stuff.
I was told, and its so true: would I want to fly a 4-day or perhaps longer trip with you? If so, you're probably gonna get the CJO.
Delta is a no BS operation. Lie, and you're done. Mess up, fess up.
It's the intangibles: leadership, honesty, humor, ease, no false confidence, that sorta stuff.
I was told, and its so true: would I want to fly a 4-day or perhaps longer trip with you? If so, you're probably gonna get the CJO.
Delta is a no BS operation. Lie, and you're done. Mess up, fess up.
10-09-2014, 11:03 PM
#5747
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I struggle with the idea of crewdawg calling himself normal. If your in the military your not normal and your app actually rises very high to the top of the list. When you put military on your app it really stands out to delta. The fact that your military and flying a regional is exactly the guy they are looking for. You might have some other things on your app that helped but for a civilian OTS looking for an interview, these credentials will not even come close to getting you an interview. 50% of all new hires are from the military, that's a lot of guys and the other 40% are from SSP/flow. That leaves the rest of us all fighting for the last 10% and that makes for some stiff competition.
Delta has said over and over that it is not who you know but what is on your app that will get you the job. I have met both VP's for Delta, two chief pilots know me by name, I have gotten personal emails for AK, I have met one of the application screeners , talked to 4 recruiters and 2 pilots that do the interviews and I can tell you it doesn't matter who you know. United hires based on who you know but delta is all about your application.
I doubt you will find someone who has been hired recently this year that is a civilian and not flow/SSP with a 3.0 GPA. The only other exemption is if your dad works for delta or your did a internship. It's not a crap shoot and to make a statement that delta randomly pulls from the bottom, defeats the purpose. Don't let crewdawg fool you, he actually has exactly what Delta is looking for.
Delta has said over and over that it is not who you know but what is on your app that will get you the job. I have met both VP's for Delta, two chief pilots know me by name, I have gotten personal emails for AK, I have met one of the application screeners , talked to 4 recruiters and 2 pilots that do the interviews and I can tell you it doesn't matter who you know. United hires based on who you know but delta is all about your application.
I doubt you will find someone who has been hired recently this year that is a civilian and not flow/SSP with a 3.0 GPA. The only other exemption is if your dad works for delta or your did a internship. It's not a crap shoot and to make a statement that delta randomly pulls from the bottom, defeats the purpose. Don't let crewdawg fool you, he actually has exactly what Delta is looking for.
10-09-2014, 11:28 PM
#5748
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I struggle with the idea of crewdawg calling himself normal. If your in the military your not normal and your app actually rises very high to the top of the list. When you put military on your app it really stands out to delta. The fact that your military and flying a regional is exactly the guy they are looking for. You might have some other things on your app that helped but for a civilian OTS looking for an interview, these credentials will not even come close to getting you an interview. 50% of all new hires are from the military, that's a lot of guys and the other 40% are from SSP/flow. That leaves the rest of us all fighting for the last 10% and that makes for some stiff competition.
Delta has said over and over that it is not who you know but what is on your app that will get you the job. I have met both VP's for Delta, two chief pilots know me by name, I have gotten personal emails for AK, I have met one of the application screeners , talked to 4 recruiters and 2 pilots that do the interviews and I can tell you it doesn't matter who you know. United hires based on who you know but delta is all about your application.
I doubt you will find someone who has been hired recently this year that is a civilian and not flow/SSP with a 3.0 GPA. The only other exemption is if your dad works for delta or your did a internship. It's not a crap shoot and to make a statement that delta randomly pulls from the bottom, defeats the purpose. Don't let crewdawg fool you, he actually has exactly what Delta is looking for.
Delta has said over and over that it is not who you know but what is on your app that will get you the job. I have met both VP's for Delta, two chief pilots know me by name, I have gotten personal emails for AK, I have met one of the application screeners , talked to 4 recruiters and 2 pilots that do the interviews and I can tell you it doesn't matter who you know. United hires based on who you know but delta is all about your application.
I doubt you will find someone who has been hired recently this year that is a civilian and not flow/SSP with a 3.0 GPA. The only other exemption is if your dad works for delta or your did a internship. It's not a crap shoot and to make a statement that delta randomly pulls from the bottom, defeats the purpose. Don't let crewdawg fool you, he actually has exactly what Delta is looking for.
Don't play the race or gender card- I've seen every newhire class since early September with my own eyes. It's very very much white males.
I did have a newhire in the jumpseat who spent 10 years at Skywest... only had one rec. He wasn't a check airman, but had plenty of jet PIC. I finally nailed it down how he got the call: He had started a program in his home town where he (and a few others) gave at risk youth private pilot ground school. At the culmination of the program, they took the students flying in a 172. Pretty cool, and he really set himself apart doing that. Take notes!
10-10-2014, 03:23 AM
#5749
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I struggle with the idea of crewdawg calling himself normal. If your in the military your not normal and your app actually rises very high to the top of the list. When you put military on your app it really stands out to delta. The fact that your military and flying a regional is exactly the guy they are looking for. You might have some other things on your app that helped but for a civilian OTS looking for an interview, these credentials will not even come close to getting you an interview. 50% of all new hires are from the military, that's a lot of guys and the other 40% are from SSP/flow. That leaves the rest of us all fighting for the last 10% and that makes for some stiff competition.
So I guess for the military guys on here, you have a better idea of what can get calls. Many consider the idea of going to the regionals and are not sure if it's helpful. In my case, think it most definitely did help. As a mil guy goes, I am normal...most guys getting hired are IPs with quite a bit more time in the jet than I. I know lots of highly qualified mil guys, who are not getting the call. Don't scoff the regionals, low pay for sure but it's a great experience and I learned a lot!
10-10-2014, 05:16 AM
#5750
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I did have a newhire in the jumpseat who spent 10 years at Skywest... only had one rec. He wasn't a check airman, but had plenty of jet PIC. I finally nailed it down how he got the call: He had started a program in his home town where he (and a few others) gave at risk youth private pilot ground school. At the culmination of the program, they took the students flying in a 172. Pretty cool, and he really set himself apart doing that. Take notes!
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