marcal

DAL doesn't seem to do regular job fairs ala Aerocrew Solutions. They seem to do the OBAP and WIA, however.

Kargo

Hey Gang,

after glossing over this thread for about minutes I have not been able to determine the current competitive quals (civilian). Can anyone toss some ball-park stuff out there, short of a lunar landing and SR71 time

a internal rec is a obvious necessity... but are folks getting on with just RJ PIC and 6-7,000 hours, or is there something else needed to be competitive... mainline type aircraft time, checkairman or office type stuff, etc.

thanks

Waggs

Nothing official (obviously) but it seems the 'straight' civilians types from my company are getting interviews and offers with check airman, union leadership, safety backgrounds, etc. The standard RJ ca w 1000+ TPIC seems to not be getting the calls yet…yet.

Flycameron

Where you went to school, what you studied in school, how long you were in school and your GPA are big factors. You want to check as many boxes as you can, checkairman, instructor etc.....

Flycameron

Their are too many people that have TPIC time right now so you need something to set yourself apart from the crowd.

Flycameron

Anyone know how to get into obap since they seem to have sold out?

Kargo

Thanks, I referred a friend of mine and got a email that more of less says they have received the lor.

His degree is very generic, some sort of aviation degree he picked up during the day when he was not flying night freight. His background includes everything from turboprop pic to 747s (I think he's on airline number 5 now, don't let him pick your stocks). He got hired at another major about 6 years ago now and had his class cancelled. We're just curious as to what is getting people called. Most of the stuff I've read doesn't discuss flight times, aircraft, etc.

Kargo

Hrkdrivr

I ran into three guys who got CJOs today. They said they were 6 for 8. All 8 were military.

Flycameron

Their is no exact formula for getting an interview right now. Most of the civilians getting hired are from compass or endeavor for now and the rest seem to be military. So their is a very small # of guys getting hired from off the street with no military time or connections.

I'd say if you are 3.6 GPA or higher and went to a quality accredited school, got your degree in 4 years or less, have between 5,000 to 10,000 total time, have TPIC time, are an instructor or checkairman and an internal LOR then you have a highly competitive application.

None of these are absolutes and others have been hired outside of these quals but for the most part these should get you interview for now. It's extremely tough for anyone to get a interview right now especially when they have over 10,000 applications to choose from. No one knows what the exact formula to get an interview is and for good reason. Their are hundreds that have been hired and 1000's waiting to get hired that are more than qualified. It will just take time to get to everyone at this point.

John Carr

Just as a point of clarification, Compass pilot's AREN'T going through the process that a Pinndeavor pilot is. CPZ pilots (flow) are simply taking slots that were negotiated via the flow.

Whereas Pinndeavor have to go through a modified process, even on the SSP.

So to adjust your point, much of the standard/variable 40-50-60% that make of the civilian demographic comes from there. With a more competitive contingent of non CPZ/9E getting the call as well.