ghilis101

There you have it, Delta is definitely the airline for you! Good luck and see you here soon!

FlyinIrish

Thanks, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Klondike Bear

Who is your current employer?

Check Essential

Let's not go overboard. Richard Anderson is clearly an excellent CEO.
But he will only be a phenomenal visionary if he gives me a big raise next year.

GunshipGuy

Some would consider him a visionary for getting the pilot group to accept C2012 when record profits were being made and soon after even greater profits to the point billions could be spent toward pushing the stock price up, thus increasing his net worth.

Bucking Bar

Working for Delta may be the incentive for this 43 year resident to move North. Me thinks the path to upgrade leads to New York, or Detroit.

PBS is good at making the lower 90% of schedules suck. At first you will not notice, you will be happy just to be here. But as time goes on you understand why some people make the difficult choice to commute. When you consider commuting for QOL from Atlanta, that says something.

ALPA fixed some serious issues with the FAR 117 negotiations that take effect in September. I'm going to give it a month or three to see how those pan out into line flying. But, something has to be done to avoid 21 days with 2 off schedules that PBS can crank out (ask about "coverage awards" in indoc). The 5:15 Average Daily Guarantee will help.

For comparison though, my father never flew under a contract that paid a 7 hour minimum day. That kind of provision forces the Company to schedule efficiently rather than the 30 hour breaks at an out station, red eye 11 hour red eye and 23:59 Duty In shenanigans that PBS software sees as optimal.

Bucking Bar

It will be interesting because we still have a few battlefield (bankruptcy) promotions in position.

Scoop

Bar,

I have been doing quite well under PBS but either way I imagine the bid awards may change a little when the 5+15 ADG kicks in this November.

Theoretically if someone works 15 days in a row with an ADG of 5+15 they are already at 78:45 and should have a big chunk of off days.

Scoop

Bucking Bar

Scoop,

By manipulating the carve outs, Delta builds the ATL BOG red eyes as a three day trip that pays < 11:50. (See ATL C705)

That makes a difference in your math and allows coverage awards to unstack to where you don't actually ever need a calendar day off. Potential worst case would be 21 days of flying for around 81 hours. It never gets that bad (and a guy would never survive it without a legit sick call if he ever decided to live anywhere but the Crew Lounge) but the worst case is very close to reality for the August schedules.

If you are on the 737, one option is to marry a girl from Columbus, Ohio (or Mexico City). It's actually my preferred 30 hours once a week overnight these days. I've even been working a side business there and booked my first $1,000 profit (might as well do something while sitting around)

The biggest surprise for many former express pilots is that Deta's schedules are considerably worse than anything in the regional world. I am at 96.5 hours block in 30 for 92 of credit in July and 81 in August & I'm not special, there's a lot of guys in this boat.

Scoop

Bar,

I agree that the carve-out may somewhat affect the 5+15 but remember the 2200 to 2359 carve out is gone. All categories are different and in LAX on the 737 we currently have no trips that will be affected by the 0000 to 0200 carve out, and I am not sure how aggressively they will try to manipulate this.

The ATL -BOG trip may be one of the few that can be adjusted to avoid the 5+15.

Anyhow - I am curious to see what the post November bid packages look like.

Scoop