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#4702
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I wasn't talking about your opinion on college. I was talking about this ridiculous statement that you made ...
"The average high school drop out on government cheese is making just as much if not more than current college grads. Welfare right now pays the equivalent of a $70K a year job in benefits"
"The average high school drop out on government cheese is making just as much if not more than current college grads. Welfare right now pays the equivalent of a $70K a year job in benefits"
#4703
How abut K-8? Dumb science projects, Spelling Bee's, and gym. (Thank God, today we have spell check.)
I mean, I had to go -- both of my parents were teachers. Gotta put food on the table, ya know.
But, at what point did formal education stop being worth the time, for you? Just wondering.
#4704
You misunderstand the statement. I'm not saying welfare pays $70K, it doesn't, not even close. However, in the private sector you have to work a job that makes $70K to get the same benefits of a welfare recipient, and that's a true statement. Unless that college degree is going to get you six figures plus, it isn't worth it.
#4705
You misunderstand the statement. I'm not saying welfare pays $70K, it doesn't, not even close. However, in the private sector you have to work a job that makes $70K to get the same benefits of a welfare recipient, and that's a true statement. Unless that college degree is going to get you six figures plus, it isn't worth it.
These are the max payout amounts. If you don't have kids you you can cut those #'s in 1/2 Your average Joe isn't going to come close to those #'s. Also, staying on welfare isn't very easy in most states. It's like being on probation and you have to report in frequently and show that you are attempting to find work. Just like your skewed view on college, your views on welfare don't have much merit either.
#4706
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These are the max payout amounts. If you don't have kids you you can cut those #'s in 1/2 Your average Joe isn't going to come close to those #'s. Also, staying on welfare isn't very easy in most states. It's like being on probation and you have to report in frequently and show that you are attempting to find work. Just like your skewed view on college, your views on welfare don't have much merit either.
#4707
Wow, the cash payouts are even higher than I thought. Michigan alone has over 20 welfare programs, the amount of assistance is crazy. The medical assistance alone is worth $20K(remember, we buy insurance, they don't have insurance, so it's straight cash savings, which, can easily run into the hundreds of thousands), cheaper loans, property tax forgiveness, free education, the list goes on and on. Yeah, they don't get $70K in cash, I never said they did. Don't even get me started on the amount of corporate welfare there is.
#4708
I live in Idaho and can guarantee you that people on welfare are getting way more than what that chart shows. I know for a fact that family with at least 3 children gets more than that just in cash and food stamps. Not sure how accurate your chart is.
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a welfare family may be somewhat higher than this study indicates."
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Do you feel the same way about High School? Trigonometry, Calculus, Chemistry, ect.? You are right. I don't use them.
How abut K-8? Dumb science projects, Spelling Bee's, and gym. (Thank God, today we have spell check.)
I mean, I had to go -- both of my parents were teachers. Gotta put food on the table, ya know.
But, at what point did formal education stop being worth the time, for you? Just wondering.
How abut K-8? Dumb science projects, Spelling Bee's, and gym. (Thank God, today we have spell check.)
I mean, I had to go -- both of my parents were teachers. Gotta put food on the table, ya know.
But, at what point did formal education stop being worth the time, for you? Just wondering.
Really, it's most formal education now, the system is severely broken.
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