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Old 06-25-2014, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv

Just like when you are in the military, you assume that almost all people are drug free and show up for work on time with initiative. If you ever open a small business.....you find out real soon that is not so.
Find me a small business that pays as well with the benefits the military provides and I will show you a drug free motivated work force.

I am involved in two small businesses. One hires folks that typically earn over $100k the other averages $10 to $25 an hour. At $10 an hour you put up with a lot for the savings.
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
3 years ago, no one was hiring. Today many regionals are shriveling up and imploding. I am sure that in today's regional world that you would find almost every CA's out there have their apps out.
Oddly enough this isn't true. I can tell you at the regional I am at their are 1500 captains. I have been with the company for ten years and am about 1000 out of 3300 total pilots. Based on the guys that are sr to me I would bank that less than 20% have applied or want to move on. They have put in over 10 years and do not want to start over. They either haven't updated their logbook or are waiting to see what happens but almost every Fo that I fly with, has applied. I too would have thought that more captains would have applied but the reality is they have been too comfortable for too long at the regionals and now don't want to move on. I'm am only banking this info on the regional I am with so I don't really know about all the other regionals.
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:07 AM
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Does DAL like to hire former DAL mainline employees, and do they preference Delta Connection pilots at all?
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeB525
Does DAL like to hire former DAL mainline employees
Yes, big time. You still have to meet all the mins (no vault letter for you, sorry ) and in most cases you'll have to at least split the difference between the min mins and the competitive mins, but if you resigned on good terms it carries massive weight.


and do they preference Delta Connection pilots at all?
Yes, a little bit. It is one of the boxes you can check. Just don't act all "I know what its like to fly DL passengers" as if you've already been doing it. There is a massive, earth shattering difference between flying for DAL and DCI, so don't let them think you are implying you've already "been there done that" (except for your former mainline service…feel free to play that one to the hilt) and you should be fine.

I assume by your post you have both, which together should actually carry a lot of weight if the rest of your app is even close to competitive.
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeB525
Does DAL like to hire former DAL mainline employees, and do they preference Delta Connection pilots at all?
I take it you are still a CFI?

Apply for the Endeavor EtD, it's your best option. 9E won't be able to staff itself in the next couple years, and once we fold, you will go to Delta, provided they are still hiring.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I take it you are still a CFI?

Apply for the Endeavor EtD, it's your best option. 9E won't be able to staff itself in the next couple years, and once we fold, you will go to Delta, provided they are still hiring.
I'd also suggest CPZ. You'd inherit a guaranteed interview and walk into much faster advancement with a growing and rapidly attritting regional that for the moment is one of the better run (relatively speaking at least). Your prior DAL service combined with your guaranteed interview will probably be pretty close to the sure thing that PCL can offer and there's a good chance you'll get hired just as soon or sooner anyway and in the meantime upgrade faster and have a better schedule.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I take it you are still a CFI?

Apply for the Endeavor EtD, it's your best option. 9E won't be able to staff itself in the next couple years, and once we fold, you will go to Delta, provided they are still hiring.
Your statement hasn't been proven. How is an EtD offer any different than guys who had actual job offers right before 9/11 that basically went poof afterwards? You can't prove otherwise for this case so that's some pretty risky advice.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Your statement hasn't been proven. How is an EtD offer any different than guys who had actual job offers right before 9/11 that basically went poof afterwards? You can't prove otherwise for this case so that's some pretty risky advice.

Originally Posted by Mesabah
I take it you are still a CFI?

Apply for the Endeavor EtD, it's your best option. 9E won't be able to staff itself in the next couple years, and once we fold, you will go to Delta, provided they are still hiring.
Bold for you. The only way they get out of the EtD is if they aren't hiring.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Bold for you. The only way they get out of the EtD is if they aren't hiring.
Isn't one of the requirements to have been a CA? They can easily say that if you didn't upgrade you don't meet the requirements for the EtD position. It's still a slippery slope for argument.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:23 AM
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Isn't one of the requirements to have been a CA? They can easily say that if you didn't upgrade you don't meet the requirements for the EtD position. It's still a slippery slope for argument.
You would be correct if Endeavor wasn't a wholly owned. You see, the breach of the EtD has to be outside of the control of Delta, while 9E is a wholly owned, there is nothing outside of Delta's control.
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