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Old 04-13-2014, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Yes, it's a shame NATCO was shutdown. The few times I went there it was great! But don't we have the same training capacity now as we did with NATCO? We have the same sims they are just all in ATL now...or did I miss something?

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All the sims in use at NATCO have been accomodated at the Kremlin. So, you're right...closing down NATCO didn't do anything to our training capacity.

I sure enjoyed it up there as well, though.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
All the sims in use at NATCO have been accomodated at the Kremlin. So, you're right...closing down NATCO didn't do anything to our training capacity.

I sure enjoyed it up there as well, though.
Yep. It was nice to be able to hit the cafeteria during a sim break.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
I'm aware the pay scales don't revert to year 1 when you upgrade to captain. However (assuming upgrade in 10 years and retire at 65), somebody who is 43 when they start will only earn that top tier captain pay for 12 years while a 23 year old will earn it for 33. Makes the young guy's average annual compensation way higher than the old guy's.

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None of what you say makes any sense at all. Most Captains are in their 12th year anyway, it doesn't matter one iota on an individual basis. I didn't major in math/statistics but unfortunately do have to layover in an HI every so often.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:01 PM
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The issue is probably more one of trying to hire a pilot so they don't fall in the midst of a retirement bubble that looks like a snake swallowed a Volkswagen Beetle. Delta needs to level that curve without overtly engaging in age discrimination, JMO.

In other news an applicant that I recommended was told he needed to have a graduate degree & higher GPA. It appears Delta Airlines is once again engaging in an astronaut style selection program. It also says something of our being the flavor of the day. Had a SWA pilot on the jumpseat sounding a lot like he wished he was at Delta the other day.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It appears Delta Airlines is once again engaging in an astronaut style selection program.
The flow-ups didn't participate in an "astronaut style selection program."
Just sayin'
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
The issue is probably more one of trying to hire a pilot so they don't fall in the midst of a retirement bubble that looks like a snake swallowed a Volkswagen Beetle. Delta needs to level that curve without overtly engaging in age discrimination, JMO.

In other news an applicant that I recommended was told he needed to have a graduate degree & higher GPA. It appears Delta Airlines is once again engaging in an astronaut style selection program. It also says something of our being the flavor of the day. Had a SWA pilot on the jumpseat sounding a lot like he wished he was at Delta the other day.
Delta "Airlines?" C'mon Bar.

On a similar note, I have an AF2 buddy. He didn't make the cut.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:38 PM
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All the guys I've recommended are taking jobs at American. Tired of waiting for delta to call. I wish them well, but wish they were here instead.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:39 PM
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The flow-ups didn't participate in an "astronaut style selection program."
The flow-ups are Delta honoring a contractual agreement. Right, wrong, or indifferent, Delta made good on a promise, which in this day & age, I think shows a lot of class.

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(Not a flow-up.)
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
All the guys I've recommended are taking jobs at American. Tired of waiting for delta to call. I wish them well, but wish they were here instead.
Time will tell how that's gonna work out. I'm not sure I'd jump into that mess at this point. My son's little league coach has been at Eagle for 17 years. I think he'd persuade your buddies otherwise.
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Old 04-13-2014, 03:10 PM
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Time will tell how that's gonna work out. I'm not sure I'd jump into that mess at this point. My son's little league coach has been at Eagle for 17 years. I think he'd persuade your buddies otherwise.
Agreed...I think there is plenty of uncertainty and potential bad news in their future. Trying to keep them open minded about what to do if Delta calls.
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