Delta Hiring News
12-17-2013, 07:16 AM
#2901
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,938
Not so different. DAL bought PNCL except those pilots didn't need to interview or be tested like PNCL because they were considered mainline. Different standards for mainline but in SAME union. Its just been accepted to get less or unequal treatment at the regional level.
12-17-2013, 07:17 AM
#2902
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12-17-2013, 07:24 AM
#2904
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: Delta chihuahua Capt.
Posts: 462
Nooooooooope.... Also like BB stated, Delta did NOT force pinnacle into bankruptcy. Pinnacles bad business decisions forced pinnacle into bankruptcy. Pinnacle bought two airlines (mesaba/colgan) and sold off all the assets (Saabs, Q400) but kept all the liability (pilots/FA). Thus breeding the fiasco of vacancy 11-09. Moving from a fiscally responsible headquarter on nonconnah, to a very pricey downtown high rise. Delta may have helped motivate the process, but to say the forced pinnacle, is ignoring the ignorance of pinnacles decisions the past few years.
12-17-2013, 07:27 AM
#2905
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,049
Originally Posted by Delta PWA
Section 1 C. (meaning, Scope) will not apply to prevent the Company or any Company affiliate from acquiring control of a domestic air carrier that operates aircraft other than permitted aircraft types (a domestic air carrier that the Company or any Company affiliate acquires control of is referred to for purposes of Section 1 D. 8. as an “acquired airline”) and operating such acquired airline pending a merger of the Company and the acquired airline, provided that:
a. the Company agrees to operationally merge with the acquired airline and become a single corporation, a single carrier under the Federal Aviation Act and a single transportation system under the Railway Labor Act, with a single air carrier certificate, a single pilot class or craft ....
a. the Company agrees to operationally merge with the acquired airline and become a single corporation, a single carrier under the Federal Aviation Act and a single transportation system under the Railway Labor Act, with a single air carrier certificate, a single pilot class or craft ....
I think it is unfortunate that the Delta pilots have drawn the line for unity along our permitted outsourcing model, but that is how it is for now.
12-17-2013, 07:31 AM
#2906
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,049
I do have a problem with ALPA members being treated differently based on how many seats managers put on airplanes. One seat and those Pinnacle, Compass, Comair and ASA pilots would have had an entirely different career outcome.
12-17-2013, 07:32 AM
#2907
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Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,049
12-17-2013, 08:58 AM
#2909
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,782
Contrary to what many think, it flows downhill. This was seen pre 9/11 as legacies were getting better CBA's, some regionals were as well. ACA, AWAC, COMAIR, ASA.
And post 9/11, the crap flowed downhill. Legacies taking concessins, regionals expected to follow suit. AGAIN, COMAIR, ACA, AWAC. Many others took a "stealth" concession via stalled negotiation and CBA's going way past ammendable dates.
Last edited by John Carr; 12-17-2013 at 09:10 AM.
12-17-2013, 09:08 AM
#2910
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,579
Are you seriously comparing NWA pilots to your list?
Not so different. DAL bought PNCL except those pilots didn't need to interview or be tested like PNCL because they were considered mainline. Different standards for mainline but in SAME union. Its just been accepted to get less or unequal treatment at the regional level.
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