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Old 06-05-2013, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Yeah but college is literally 10 times better now.
They say a College degree is quickly becoming the equivalent of having a high school diploma. Pay 100k so you can maybe get a job that pays 50-60k/yr. A lot of higher paying jobs outside aviation require a masters which today is probably another 50-60k.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:04 PM
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They say a College degree is quickly becoming the equivalent of having a high school diploma. Pay 100k so you can maybe get a job that pays 50-60k/yr. A lot of higher paying jobs outside aviation require a masters which today is probably another 50-60k.
Most college degrees today get you less educated and far less prepared than high school diplomas of not that long ago. I just can't believe how many people pay that much for so little potential upside.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LarryDavid
They say a College degree is quickly becoming the equivalent of having a high school diploma. Pay 100k so you can maybe get a job that pays 50-60k/yr. A lot of higher paying jobs outside aviation require a masters which today is probably another 50-60k.
I remember watching a documentary about the college bubble. The film crew went to some big name university and were looking at the plaques with names of students who graduated with a 4.0 GPA. In 1963 there was a plaque with about 20 names on it. By the time you got to 2009, there were about 10 plaques full of names just for that graduating class. The implied question is are students getting that much smarter, or have the standards been lowered to accept more admissions and thus more money for the school?
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:34 PM
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How the Great Recession Proved, Beyond a Doubt, the Value of a College Degree - Jordan Weissmann - The Atlantic
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My wife is a college professor and you'd be surprised (or not) on how hard the school she works at makes it for her to fail someone. Most of her students feel entitled and constantly complain about schoolwork, tests ect. A college degree is nothing other than signing up for class and going through the motions.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:45 PM
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My wife is a college professor and you'd be surprised (or not) on how hard the school she works at makes it for her to fail someone. Most of her students feel entitled and constantly complain about schoolwork, tests ect. A college degree is nothing other than signing up for class and going through the motions.
Thats true if you want to graduate with a 2.0 GPA. I have had some courses that I had to work very hard in, and certainly wouldn't say I was going through the motions. Maybe I'm just challenged.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:34 PM
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I pay my debts as agreed. But I'm not so quick to judge those who can't, or just won't.
Anyone would look at the facts. Common sense states a bankrupt party, generally:
- has been irresponsible
- has failed to plan
- can not manage resources
- and if done opportunistically; is a thief who would screw their employer if given the opportunity.

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Anyone would look at the facts. Common sense states a bankrupt party, generally:
- has been irresponsible
- has failed to plan
- can not manage resources
- and if done opportunistically; is a thief who would screw their employer if given the opportunity.

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There are definitely exceptions to this. For instance, there are many dudes who have been absolutely ruined by a divorce that have had no alternative but to declare bankruptcy.
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Good post. The take away:

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There are definitely exceptions to this. For instance, there are many dudes who have been absolutely ruined by a divorce that have had no alternative but to declare bankruptcy.
Delta's interview process asks quite a few questions about family life. People who had a history of divorce were asked about it. Interestingly more than one part of the process independently and objectively pinged on the same issue.

I've no idea if Delta looks at a credit report, but I'd almost bet they do.

Who knows how they are going to run things this time. A lot has changed since the merger with NWA.

In the past they were very thorough. They want folks with a stable home that are going to show up to work and fly airplanes without distractions or drama. One aspect of the job is being 6,000 miles away from home in a place where you are a target. Some flights require 4 man crews. One guy gets into a mess and an airplane and 300 pax are stuck on the wrong side of the planet.
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