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10-29-2013, 04:38 AM
#2311
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
And the best stories from your past involve talking with your hands!
I still love "The Navy has a long history of making good decisions. I mean the Navy saw the potential in Maverick and Goose and sent them to Mirimar, the Air Force would've never done that."
I still love "The Navy has a long history of making good decisions. I mean the Navy saw the potential in Maverick and Goose and sent them to Mirimar, the Air Force would've never done that."
10-29-2013, 05:22 AM
#2312
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Decoupled
Posts: 922
The dude in the very back has his cover on. He is future captain material. Hire him.
10-29-2013, 05:28 AM
#2313
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Cockpit speaker volume knob set to eleven.
Posts: 1,410
[QUOTE=orvil;1509427]The dude in the very back has his cover on. He is future captain material. Hire him.[/QUOTE
He has to buy drinks at the club every time he walks in the door.
He has to buy drinks at the club every time he walks in the door.
10-29-2013, 05:37 AM
#2314
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,049
10-29-2013, 05:47 AM
#2315
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Airplane
Posts: 2,385
10-29-2013, 07:00 AM
#2316
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: NYC 320B
Posts: 271
A few things:
1. I agree with your overall sentiment. I'm military too and I have A) never flown civilian for hire, and B) haven't really interviewed for anything in over 15 years...so it's paramount that I (we) put in effort to overcome the learning curve.
2. These days, any qualified pilot has a fairly equal shot of getting the job, mil or not. Yes, mil pilots are a "known quantity" and come from a pretty standard background which is why we can and do get hired with less time, but it's not the huge discriminator it used to be. Simply being military isn't enough...work for that IP/EP upgrade and go to safety school...
3. Lots of mil aircrew contributed to GWOT. I'm not sure what AFSOC airframe you flew but I will ask you to please tell your MC-130 brethren to stop doing blacked-out EROs on a very busy Bagram or Kandahar ramp. A) you're on an airfield lit like the Super Bowl, B) no one, including the drunk Rusky taxiing his AN-12 and the Indonesian forklift driver can see you well enough with your lights off, and C) you're not THAT "special" that you require to be blacked out everywhere you go.
4. By the way, it's "lose", not "loose".
5. And keep a sense of humor, I'm just busting your chops.
1. I agree with your overall sentiment. I'm military too and I have A) never flown civilian for hire, and B) haven't really interviewed for anything in over 15 years...so it's paramount that I (we) put in effort to overcome the learning curve.
2. These days, any qualified pilot has a fairly equal shot of getting the job, mil or not. Yes, mil pilots are a "known quantity" and come from a pretty standard background which is why we can and do get hired with less time, but it's not the huge discriminator it used to be. Simply being military isn't enough...work for that IP/EP upgrade and go to safety school...
3. Lots of mil aircrew contributed to GWOT. I'm not sure what AFSOC airframe you flew but I will ask you to please tell your MC-130 brethren to stop doing blacked-out EROs on a very busy Bagram or Kandahar ramp. A) you're on an airfield lit like the Super Bowl, B) no one, including the drunk Rusky taxiing his AN-12 and the Indonesian forklift driver can see you well enough with your lights off, and C) you're not THAT "special" that you require to be blacked out everywhere you go.
4. By the way, it's "lose", not "loose".
5. And keep a sense of humor, I'm just busting your chops.
Like you I fly herks.....I can't spell my way out of the cockpit. Flying is easy....being a spelling moron is hard. I couldn't agree more. The AFSOC aircraft lighting policy is completely retarded. I just returned form Bagram. I fly slicks now. Once you are on the outside looking in AFSOC looks really silly. We did fly some great missions back in 2001 though.
10-29-2013, 09:55 AM
#2317
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
My point was that many of the questions that are asked seem quite patronizing and ridiculous for today's industry and applicant demographic. Who is being called that doesnt know how to hold? Or when to divert? And with the guys that have been stuck in the right seat for the last decade, ask some relevant questions like crm scenarios with dbag captains, or something about technology being used today, not in the old days when a flight engineer calculated the time it took to accelerate to v1. It seems that a vast majority of applicants are not new to the 121 world, they know how acars and cpdlc work, and are not naval aviators!
But as many others have posted many other times, the amount of preparation that you have to put into being prepared for what they ask of you that day is miniscule compared to a 20-30+ year career. Just look at it as a personal investment of a fairly small amount of time compared to decades of positive return. To put it bluntly, a week or two of studying to get a 30 year multi million dollar career. Honestly its not realy even about the material. Its about the attitude and motivation.
10-29-2013, 09:59 AM
#2318
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
Plenty of non flow civvie pilots will get hired at DL. I suspect DL is clearing some of its backlog and simply trying to be fair to mil applicants relative to the number of flows they will be taking for the first half of 2014. The flows mean the mil:civvie ratio is front loaded to be VERY pro civvie and I suspect DL wants to preserve the hiring diversity it values and appreciates. After the initial 2014 flows are exhausted in late spring 2014 I suspect very significant amounts of off the street civvies will be hired.
10-29-2013, 09:59 AM
#2319
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,049
You guys talk like Delta doesn't use that technology ... has anyone forgotten where our new hires may actually end up?
On IOE, due to constructions and map shifts, yeah I actually shot an approach using the RMI with about a 30-35 knot crosswind aloft, nailed it. I was kind of proud of myself
On IOE, due to constructions and map shifts, yeah I actually shot an approach using the RMI with about a 30-35 knot crosswind aloft, nailed it. I was kind of proud of myself
10-29-2013, 10:06 AM
#2320
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,049
The MD88 is closer to this
Than this
Which is what they are flying currently.
So when they read questions about a 727 ... in two years they'll be thinking ... "if only I was a FO on a 727 ...."
Than this
Which is what they are flying currently.
So when they read questions about a 727 ... in two years they'll be thinking ... "if only I was a FO on a 727 ...."
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