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Old 10-22-2013, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
SEA is not going to stay the same size.
I hope not. but to add some fidelity to the SEA seniority thread, I was the junior guy in the base when the ER category openned, and I was hired Sep 3rd 2007 (south). I was then the first displaced, found out the day I finished my TOE. Since then there have been several more bids with MD's and no one has been reinstated. A few have bid off on the most recent bids, but no one has been backfilled, despite the "growth" of the Seattle flying.

So when guys ask me how long I think till I can hold it, I say: "Given the recent trajectory, if this trend continues, it will be an infinite amount of time." Which is mathematically correct.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:31 AM
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by A6danimal
I hope not. but to add some fidelity to the SEA seniority thread, I was the junior guy in the base when the ER category openned, and I was hired Sep 3rd 2007 (south). I was then the first displaced, found out the day I finished my TOE. Since then there have been several more bids with MD's and no one has been reinstated. A few have bid off on the most recent bids, but no one has been backfilled, despite the "growth" of the Seattle flying.

So when guys ask me how long I think till I can hold it, I say: "Given the recent trajectory, if this trend continues, it will be an infinite amount of time." Which is mathematically correct.
SEA has been and always will be a senior base.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:36 AM
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
SEA has been and always will be a senior base.
True dat. Remember when it was a 727 base? When DAL shut that down, some of the senior 727 FOs bid MD11.... Captain...

I think the FEs were able to hold good MD11 FO lines..
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by A6danimal
I hope not. but to add some fidelity to the SEA seniority thread, I was the junior guy in the base when the ER category openned, and I was hired Sep 3rd 2007 (south). I was then the first displaced, found out the day I finished my TOE. Since then there have been several more bids with MD's and no one has been reinstated. A few have bid off on the most recent bids, but no one has been backfilled, despite the "growth" of the Seattle flying.

So when guys ask me how long I think till I can hold it, I say: "Given the recent trajectory, if this trend continues, it will be an infinite amount of time." Which is mathematically correct.

We're merged. DOH means nothing.

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Old 10-23-2013, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
True dat. Remember when it was a 727 base? When DAL shut that down, some of the senior 727 FOs bid MD11.... Captain...

I think the FEs were able to hold good MD11 FO lines..

Over the years all the bases on the four corners of the country have always been the most senior. BOS, MIA, SEA and LAX being the four corners. I was a 757 F/O in BOS when they closed it in 1996. A month or so before they closed it, we were sharing a motel van with an ATL L10-11 crew to the layover in NYC. They asked where we were based, we told them. Their Capt. asked, "So, where are you going to go when they close it?"

My Capt. said, "L15 in ATL." I said, "MD11 F/O, ATL". Their eyes got big and the F/O says, "You guys think you can hold that?"

I just laughed and said, "Well, he's number 350, and I'll be half way up regular lines on the MD11."

BOS was always senior, many guys retired off the 727 there rather than commute to ATL for the L15.

And that's also why LBP will make the smaller bases more senior, nobody will have to commute to ATL for a pay raise. Guys will be retiring off the 737 in LAX at top pay.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:16 AM
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And that's also why LBP will make the smaller bases more senior, nobody will have to commute to ATL for a pay raise. Guys will be retiring off the 737 in LAX at top pay.
I fail to see the problem with that. When the 717 base opens in MCO, you and I can drive to work and make as much as you are making now....
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I fail to see the problem with that. When the 717 base opens in MCO, you and I can drive to work and make as much as you are making now....
Like I said in an earlier LBP post, it all depends on where you are on the list. If we ever did get LBP I'd bid off the ULR flying in a NY Minute, and so would a lot of other very senior pilots. Nobody likes doing it, we are only there for the money. Take that incentive away, and we'll all bid something that stays closer to home. If they opened a base for...anything...in MCO, I'd have to seriously consider it, LBP or not.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:51 AM
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SEA has always been super senior for every company. I know at NWA it was bad, and I've heard the same stories at UAL. When UAL closed their 737 base their were FOs bidding widebody left seat elsewhere, and I remember meeting an AA guy that was #3 on the 737 in DFW but couldn't hold bottom reserve on SEA DC-10. I think with the right amount of expansion it could change in some regard, but it's a senior place for darn sure.
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