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06-17-2019, 09:45 AM

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RAH RAH REE

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Originally Posted by freightpilotguy

Just wondering, how are my chances of getting an interview with four failures, all from my Part 91 GA training? I’ve worked at two 135 freight operators over the past few years and haven’t failed anything and I am about to enter the regionals, either SkyWest or PSA, I still haven’t made a decision. I am also working on a degree online. Does anybody know of anyone who has gotten on at Delta with four or more failures?

Right now I'd say no chance. With having 1 or 2 failures would probably fly, 4 is starting to be seen as excessive. They also don't really like online degrees. If I were you I'd go someplace with flow or head to Atlas and hope for UPS or FedEx or a LCC. Not being mean, but there are only 2-4 spots out of every 10 interview for non military guys.

06-17-2019, 09:49 AM

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Extenda

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Originally Posted by freightpilotguy

Impossible to say. I got hired. Failed PPL flight, CFII oral, T-1 UPT checkride, then another T-1 oral. Those last two aren’t really “checkrides” per se, but I talked about what I learned from them in the interview. Just pass all your 121 training events and you’ll get on somewhere for sure eventually.

06-17-2019, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE

Not being mean, but there are only 2-4 spots out of every 10 interview for non military guys.

That has not been the case for a while. It is usually 50%-70% civilians who interview.

06-17-2019, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Extenda

Those last two aren’t really “checkrides” per se,

An oral is part of the checkride. A failed oral is a failed checkride.

06-17-2019, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine

That has not been the case for a while. It is usually 50%-70% civilians who interview.

I don't count required DGI guys.

06-17-2019, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine

An oral is part of the checkride. A failed oral is a failed checkride.

I think he was more referencing that his T-1 check and oral aren’t quite on the same level as an FAA Check...as they’re more progress checks. Just the way it read to me.

06-17-2019, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmay202

I think he was more referencing that his T-1 check and oral aren’t quite on the same level as an FAA Check...as they’re more progress checks. Just the way it read to me.

My mistake, I didn't see the T-1 oral. I thought he was referring to the CFII oral.

CFI orals have a high failure rate and some people forget to count those as failures on their application. I have reviewed a few applications that try to treat the oral as something separate than the checkride.

06-17-2019, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE

Comments like the one above are only opinions based off the perception of how competitive it is. You make your own reality. PM sent.

06-17-2019, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saturn

You make your own reality. PM sent.

Or made it.

Nothing wrong with having hope, but it's fair to be honest about one's competitiveness.

It's an internet forum, so we should all understand the quality and variety of feedback one will get here.

06-17-2019, 07:50 PM

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Right now I'd say no chance. With having 1 or 2 failures would probably fly, 4 is starting to be seen as excessive. They also don't really like online degrees. If I were you I'd go someplace with flow or head to Atlas and hope for UPS or FedEx or a LCC. Not being mean, but there are only 2-4 spots out of every 10 interview for non military guys.

I know guys who have been hired here with more than 2 failures.

It's probably more like 7/10 for non-mil guys in new-hire classes.