Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-16-2012, 04:03 AM
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Resident rock expert?
That is a coveted title.
Can you back that up?
I'll give you my feedback from Bonnaroo.
05-16-2012, 04:50 AM
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05-16-2012, 05:26 AM
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1 The TA is approved and then RA says "whoops, I think the pilots got way too much for what I had planned. My fleeting opportunity turned into an ALPA windfall, those darned ALPA negotiators!"
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2 The pilots vote in the TA, RA's "fleeting opportunity" is revealed, and the pilots say "This is just another LGA slot swap scam! I shoulda voted HellNO! ALPA should have seen this coming!"
05-16-2012, 05:42 AM
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The optimist in me is because our CEO and ALPA leadership want to destroy the old, tired, dysfunctional Section 6 model of endless hand grenades, picketing, NMB sessions, going years beyond the amendable date to finally get a TA that reluctantly passes (after perhaps a NO vote or two before that)...all to mix, stir, and repeat three years later, ad infinitum.
The optimist in me says it is the same reason DAL thought way outside the box and bought the refinery. Maybe it will be a brilliant move, maybe not. But at least our approach to how much we pay for fuel is PROactive and not "gee I sure hope oil gets cheap again.?
Then the pessimist in me says, "gee, why WOULD the company be rushing this? It certainly isn't because RA goes to bed every night thinking 'boy our pilots sure need to be paid more; how can I make that happen?'"
The devil in the details will reveal much...
The optimist in me says it is the same reason DAL thought way outside the box and bought the refinery. Maybe it will be a brilliant move, maybe not. But at least our approach to how much we pay for fuel is PROactive and not "gee I sure hope oil gets cheap again.?
Then the pessimist in me says, "gee, why WOULD the company be rushing this? It certainly isn't because RA goes to bed every night thinking 'boy our pilots sure need to be paid more; how can I make that happen?'"
The devil in the details will reveal much...
Not sure either what the rush is, but I honestly feel it is not a "what's up their sleeve" event...
I think this management team led by RA has a good handle on where they want to take this company for all the reasons you stated above. I think RA and the team just view this contract stuff as a distraction to moving forward. Good bad or indifferent, I dont think they care too much about the details, they just want it out of the way...
All good in my mind but we just need to be the ones paying attention to details.
05-16-2012, 05:54 AM
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05-16-2012, 07:03 AM
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Maybe they are looking at purchasing pieces of another "distraught" carrier......silver planes with warm climate base....women who enjoy wearing spandex....
05-16-2012, 07:03 AM
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Hey guys, I'm trying to figure out if I should green slip, but I don't completely understand the pay. If I am on reserve the first two days of a green slipped 4 day and and the following 2 days are my X days, do I get paid the whole trip single pay on top of guarantee, or just the 2 days that are on my x days? I tried reading the contract and it was confusing. Something about single pay and no credit but I thought credit and pay were one in the same.
05-16-2012, 07:15 AM
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Hey guys, I'm trying to figure out if I should green slip, but I don't completely understand the pay. If I am on reserve the first two days of a green slipped 4 day and and the following 2 days are my X days, do I get paid the whole trip single pay on top of guarantee, or just the 2 days that are on my x days? I tried reading the contract and it was confusing. Something about single pay and no credit but I thought credit and pay were one in the same.
Generally reserves don't get "double" pay, but it goes on top of the guarantee so that's a huge positive. IA is basically the same.
Good luck
05-16-2012, 07:16 AM
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05-16-2012, 07:24 AM
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Anybody got any idea how this new short call bucket thing works? I’m sitting #4 in a row tomorrow, and there is a guy who has been available all week like I have been who has only been given 1 for the month. How did I get tagged with another one (I should be in bucket 2 now, along with a few other guys who got tagged) while he is still sitting pretty with only 1 for the month so far? I have been using the new “to be used only if needed” option for the time requests, but that shouldn’t volunteer me to sit, as there is another option that says “to be first in sequence”. I talked to the scheduling rep at ALPA about those options earlier this month to make sure I understood it and everything made sense at the time, but am I missing something? Am I inadvertently volunteering myself to sit when my intent was only to request times if scheduled to sit?
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