Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-15-2012, 06:15 AM
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While you may be willing to turn around and kiss, I'm not.
My percentage was put down to pull the bell curve higher. Unless my percentages were thrown out for being out of the normalized range, my 99% brought up three 10% requesters to 30%.
05-15-2012, 06:19 AM
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Suspect indeed.
For months now ALPA has been telling us that it would be foolish and irresponsible to disclose that number. That it would give management an advantage in the negotiations. Like showing your cards in poker, yada yada.
So the day the pay rate talks begin, sailingfun comes out and not only claims to know the number but posts it on a public website. And surprise surprise, its a lowball number.
Something doesn't smell right.
For months now ALPA has been telling us that it would be foolish and irresponsible to disclose that number. That it would give management an advantage in the negotiations. Like showing your cards in poker, yada yada.
So the day the pay rate talks begin, sailingfun comes out and not only claims to know the number but posts it on a public website. And surprise surprise, its a lowball number.
Something doesn't smell right.
05-15-2012, 06:19 AM
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And I'm not being sarcastic.
05-15-2012, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
While you may be willing to turn around and kiss, I'm not.
My percentage was put down to pull the bell curve higher. Unless my percentages were thrown out for being out of the normalized range, my 99% brought up two 10% requesters to 30%.
In which case your 99% didn't stand a statistical chance.
I knew we should have bribed our statistician...
05-15-2012, 06:22 AM
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Your number would not really move a bell curve anyway. If you averaged every survey it would have a effect. It would not change a bell curve.
05-15-2012, 06:22 AM
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A risk I was willing to take.
05-15-2012, 06:24 AM
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These will greatly affect staffing numbers (more stagnation) and would make reserve potentially very abusive.
Reserve
o Reserve guarantee
§ Increase to 72:00 – 80:00 (variable with ALV)
§ Max reserve changed from ALV to ALV + 15:00
§ Ability to pick up additional on-call days for increased reserve guarantee
o X-days
§ Increase to 13/14 for bid periods with a reserve guarantee of 72:00-74:59
§ Remain at 12/13 for bid periods with a reserve guarantee of 75:00-80:00
§ Max of seven for bid periods with a reserve guarantee of 75:00-80:00 (delayed until 14-hour int’l short call implemented under new FARs)
§ Ability to pick up additional short call period for increased reserve guarantee
Reserve
o Reserve guarantee
§ Increase to 72:00 – 80:00 (variable with ALV)
§ Max reserve changed from ALV to ALV + 15:00
§ Ability to pick up additional on-call days for increased reserve guarantee
o X-days
§ Increase to 13/14 for bid periods with a reserve guarantee of 72:00-74:59
§ Remain at 12/13 for bid periods with a reserve guarantee of 75:00-80:00
§ Max of seven for bid periods with a reserve guarantee of 75:00-80:00 (delayed until 14-hour int’l short call implemented under new FARs)
§ Ability to pick up additional short call period for increased reserve guarantee
05-15-2012, 06:25 AM
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I have no idea how DALPA calculated the surveys. I was however always taught to get a correct number you throw out the extremes both high and low. Every survey was read by a individual. The written comments were in my mind key to the surveys. Do you think yours got more or less credibility from whoever read it?
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05-15-2012, 06:26 AM
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05-15-2012, 06:31 AM
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Never do math in public. I made a mistake. If vacation paid 6 hours a day then 5 weeks vacation would allow me to take 2.5 months off. Sill not a bad deal!!!
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