Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-12-2012, 07:39 PM
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Normally I'm right with your posts, but here's where you lost me:
1. You've gone into deep speculation well beyond the level of detail that is known.
2. You've gone further and speculated into the consequences of that which you speculated on.
You're not the only one, but it boils down to just spinning your wheels and getting your blood pressure up (if you're senior to me, by all means keep it up
) over nothing.
1. You've gone into deep speculation well beyond the level of detail that is known.
2. You've gone further and speculated into the consequences of that which you speculated on.
You're not the only one, but it boils down to just spinning your wheels and getting your blood pressure up (if you're senior to me, by all means keep it up
) over nothing.There is only one reason DALPA has been dancing around the issue and wont simply state "We aim to reduce outsourced RJ's, especially those larger than 50 seats". They are layering the leaks, trying to upsell even the bad then hope when they spring the 20 to 30% raise everybody will overlook the backslide about to occur from lousy work rules and more outsourced flying. The warning signs are already there, but some choose to look the other way and will settle for a pay raise.
05-12-2012, 07:39 PM
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05-12-2012, 07:46 PM
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If you haven't picked up that the final proposal will include more 76 seaters from the cryptic, Clintonesk worded updates regarding scope then you simply aren't using common sense.
There is only one reason DALPA has been dancing around the issue and wont simply state "We aim to reduce outsourced RJ's, especially those larger than 50 seats". They are layering the leaks, trying to upsell even the bad then hope when they spring the 20 to 30% raise everybody will overlook the backslide about to occur from lousy work rules and more outsourced flying. The warning signs are already there, but some choose to look the other way and will settle for a pay raise.
There is only one reason DALPA has been dancing around the issue and wont simply state "We aim to reduce outsourced RJ's, especially those larger than 50 seats". They are layering the leaks, trying to upsell even the bad then hope when they spring the 20 to 30% raise everybody will overlook the backslide about to occur from lousy work rules and more outsourced flying. The warning signs are already there, but some choose to look the other way and will settle for a pay raise.
05-12-2012, 07:56 PM
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05-12-2012, 08:01 PM
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05-12-2012, 08:08 PM
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Wow... this 30 day recency popup looks really scary.
05-12-2012, 08:18 PM
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Forgot to Hit Submit.
No, I don't think I screwed up. I do remember hitting submit on the 8th because I remember saying to my wife "that's done for now..." The problem was I didn't save the bid for that extra piece of mind, and forgot to go back and save it because I didn't need to change anything after all.
Then it dawns at 8:45 this morning "oh crap, I didn't save that... DID I HIT SUBMIT!?!?!" It's no different than "did I leave the iron on? Is the garage door down? Were we really cleared to land?"
It's that kind of crap. It's what made that little inner voice a while back just say "@#%@)(#% I QUIT!!!!" and left me in a blank stare for so long.
05-12-2012, 08:25 PM
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I've been out out drinking, so take everything with a grain of salt: scope matters, no matter what the girls tell you. Qol, in a capitalist system productive pilots=fewer pilots on the list. Imho you should offer to be more productive, but somehow tie it in with retirements/growth to avoid stagnating seniority growth. Good luck, we are all counting on you!
05-12-2012, 08:59 PM
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I've been out out drinking, so take everything with a grain of salt: scope matters, no matter what the girls tell you. Qol, in a capitalist system productive pilots=fewer pilots on the list. Imho you should offer to be more productive, but somehow tie it in with retirements/growth to avoid stagnating seniority growth. Good luck, we are all counting on you!
05-12-2012, 10:03 PM
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Anyway its just a prediction based on all that, but I am absolutely certain of the inevitability of it all. While I would be ecstatic to have to eat crow and say "boy was I wrong!" I think it is crystal clear we are being groomed for exactly what I and others see coming.
If (when) it happens, I won't say "see I told you so" to gloat. Far, far from it. The brevity in it all will be just one more grain of sand on the beach of history we all must walk on to get to where we want to be. If (when) it happens, if even one or two DL pilots think to themselves how someone else could have been so sure and then ended up being right, maybe just a little ray of light will be shed on the shadowy process that has been stuck in a negative feedback loop of consistently themed mistakes at the most foundational levels of our profession in general and our pilot group in particular.
And if it doesn't and I'm wrong, I will be the first to call myself out on it, believe me. But if we see that I (and many others) are right, the point isn't that we were right or who was right but rather why we were right and how we came to that conclusion and what can we do about it going forward to trap these errors instead of letting them continue to get by us.
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