Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-09-2009, 05:59 PM
#9881
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Weird, thats exactly opposite of my experience. The problem is, the CAs are too busy putting their flight gear away. And now we have to interupt them with this checklist.
07-09-2009, 06:10 PM
#9882
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When I first got on the Mad dog, I had bruised knuckles from forcing that fuel lever forward and ramming the thrust lever(with my right hand). Starting the second engine, I used to jam the Capt hands. Why are those things so stiff. I just realized that in one post I used the words right hand and stiff. huh huh
07-09-2009, 06:16 PM
#9883
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When I first got on the Mad dog, I had bruised knuckles from forcing that fuel lever forward and ramming the thrust lever(with my right hand). Starting the second engine, I used to jam the Capt hands. Why are those things so stiff. I just realized that in one post I used the words right hand and stiff. huh huh
07-09-2009, 06:16 PM
#9884
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The 88 is no problem for the ailerons but the 90 is a whole nother issue!
BTW, was told to use the left hand on start switches right on fuel levers. Got dinged for doing it the the other way.
On the shutdown, I usually just tell him what I did. Can only imagine the fun if they ever listen to these tapes.
BTW, was told to use the left hand on start switches right on fuel levers. Got dinged for doing it the the other way.
On the shutdown, I usually just tell him what I did. Can only imagine the fun if they ever listen to these tapes.
07-09-2009, 06:17 PM
#9885
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The issue with what hand to use has to do with performing the memory items for an aborted start if you need to do one. If you use your left hand for the switch and your right hand for the levers, you cannot reach over with your right hand to turn the ignition off while continuing to turn the motor. You have to have your right hand on the switch and your left hand on the levers so you can reach up to flip the ignition off if you abort the start. I know it doesn't sound right, but try turning that switch off with your right hand and keep your left hand on the switch so the motor continues to turn. Have whoever dinged you for doing it the best way sit in the right seat and do an aborted start. You learn this the first time you get one in the sim.
07-09-2009, 06:31 PM
#9886
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Well, ahem, I may not be THE BEST, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night...and I flew heavies in the left seat for 20 years in the Air Force. So, I know the deal. Welcome to DAL bro. I'll take care of you. 
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07-09-2009, 06:33 PM
#9887
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Speaking of the sim session, I've never had. 1 day training event that allows me to commute in and out on the same day and not require a hotel. Anyone know any good ways to get directly from the airport to NATCO and back now that the airport is not on the way to the hotel? My commute home is reasonably tight and I don't think there's time to shuttle to the hotel and theN to the airport. Also, if anyone here has already been up there for the sim, does it seriously take 4 hours? Seems like a lot of time to me.
Hope this helps.
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07-09-2009, 06:44 PM
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DAL is closing Compass and bringing its 36 E-175's to mainline.
Here is why I think this is as good as an idea I've heard.
a) Compass is already wholly owned by DAL, b) they have no 50 seaters to offload, c) DAL is already operating at their max 76 seat load and this will allow them to outsource for more d) DAL loves the first class seats and would not have to remove them to 70 seats if we f e) eliminates the flowback and subsequent recall clause which will save 1/2 the training costs on both an f and recall, f) Eliminates the flow-up clause which I'm sure Atlanta hates since it has its own idea on what a DAL pilot should be and puts all hiring back in their hands. g) more cost savings with the elimination of redundant depts since they are wholly owned, h) And maybe the best reason is that ACL is looking North to keep "his options open." He's spinning that like a good deal and since Compass is based on the North side Compass fits the bill.
I know there are many holes in my theory but it is only that. I imagine they will bring the Compass guys in at the bottom of the list and the good deal for jr guys ACL wrote to is the CA seats, 150+ I imagine since they have over 300 pilots. The "hiring possibly in 18 months" is the time it will take to merge the operating certificate after our SOC. This would also be good for us scope wise bringing some of the RJ flying back to mainline. That could be the hiccup in my theory. We'll see.
07-09-2009, 06:54 PM
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OK. After reading most of the previous posts I have come up with my own idea/conspiracy theory.
DAL is closing Compass and bringing its 36 E-175's to mainline.
Here is why I think this is as good as an idea I've heard.
a) Compass is already wholly owned by DAL, b) they have no 50 seaters to offload, c) DAL is already operating at their max 76 seat load and this will allow them to outsource for more d) DAL loves the first class seats and would not have to remove them to 70 seats if we f e) eliminates the flowback and subsequent recall clause which will save 1/2 the training costs on both an f and recall, f) Eliminates the flow-up clause which I'm sure Atlanta hates since it has its own idea on what a DAL pilot should be and puts all hiring back in their hands. g) more cost savings with the elimination of redundant depts since they are wholly owned, h) And maybe the best reason is that ACL is looking North to keep "his options open." He's spinning that like a good deal and since Compass is based on the North side Compass fits the bill.
I know there are many holes in my theory but it is only that. I imagine they will bring the Compass guys in at the bottom of the list and the good deal for jr guys ACL wrote to is the CA seats, 150+ I imagine since they have over 300 pilots. The "hiring possibly in 18 months" is the time it will take to merge the operating certificate after our SOC. This would also be good for us scope wise bringing some of the RJ flying back to mainline. That could be the hiccup in my theory. We'll see.
DAL is closing Compass and bringing its 36 E-175's to mainline.
Here is why I think this is as good as an idea I've heard.
a) Compass is already wholly owned by DAL, b) they have no 50 seaters to offload, c) DAL is already operating at their max 76 seat load and this will allow them to outsource for more d) DAL loves the first class seats and would not have to remove them to 70 seats if we f e) eliminates the flowback and subsequent recall clause which will save 1/2 the training costs on both an f and recall, f) Eliminates the flow-up clause which I'm sure Atlanta hates since it has its own idea on what a DAL pilot should be and puts all hiring back in their hands. g) more cost savings with the elimination of redundant depts since they are wholly owned, h) And maybe the best reason is that ACL is looking North to keep "his options open." He's spinning that like a good deal and since Compass is based on the North side Compass fits the bill.
I know there are many holes in my theory but it is only that. I imagine they will bring the Compass guys in at the bottom of the list and the good deal for jr guys ACL wrote to is the CA seats, 150+ I imagine since they have over 300 pilots. The "hiring possibly in 18 months" is the time it will take to merge the operating certificate after our SOC. This would also be good for us scope wise bringing some of the RJ flying back to mainline. That could be the hiccup in my theory. We'll see.
One can dream can't they.
07-09-2009, 06:55 PM
#9890
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Did the same thing with what was probably your old 727 at Champion as late as Jan '08,with the Clippers in the back,just did it the old way via CIVET,busy,busy, but it was real flying,and actually fun,boy that localizer sweeps in quick at the last,near FUELR ! Now I'm a glass pilot like everybody else,but I cherish my time in the Boeing masterpiece.
I miss those flights. They were the hidden secret at Northwest for a long time. Did the Champion flights get the extravagant catering, too? Shrimp? Cocktail sauce? Dove bars? Sandwiches? Wraps? Chips?
All before we took off....
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