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Old 05-12-2012, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
PM sent to all those that asked! I've been out in the yard all day. I assume ACL has been, too.

Pruning 80 shrubs and cleaning up after... blargh.
Missed me.. Can I get a copy? Feel your pain, btw. Spent the day tuning up and adjusting the irrigation system.
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Clamp, can you shoot me a copy? ACL is dropping the ball.
Btw, I hit ya last night.
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
If it's gone when I get back.. Oh well.

Plus, an IPad can actually be tracked.
This would be an uncomfortable moment in the spirit of "...the calls are coming from inside the house!"

The Calls Are Coming From Inside The House - Television Tropes & Idioms

FO on phone: "Hello officer, it's me again. We just landed, and have you had a chance to run a trace on my equipment?"

Police: "We did, and we show your device is still on the flight deck."

Captain looks away sheepishly and spins the locks on his flight case...
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
This would be an uncomfortable moment in the spirit of "...the calls are coming from inside the house!"

The Calls Are Coming From Inside The House - Television Tropes & Idioms

FO on phone: "Hello officer, it's me again. We just landed, and have you had a chance to run a trace on my equipment?"

Police: "We did, and we show your device is still on the flight deck."

Captain looks away sheepishly and spins the locks on his flight case...
I can't remember what a flight case is anymore.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
None of the stuff you mention has been agreed to. The things I am talking about have been agreed to according to our negotiator's notepad. It seems the company is not agreeing to very many positive items. Ending the sick harassment program is bull. That program shouldn't be here to begin with. The company started it on its own last year. Ending the 75 percent sick pay is a win, but as I understand it is just restoring an old contract item that was stolen from us.
DON'T JUDGE AN ENTIRE AGREEMENT BY A FEW BULLET POINTS!! You are literally NOT a party to the negotiations.......

Take a breath.... we aren't even sure whether we will see a TA or not!

Dang dude! "Serenity now...."
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
DON'T JUDGE AN ENTIRE AGREEMENT BY A FEW BULLET POINTS!! You are literally NOT a party to the negotiations.......

Take a breath.... we aren't even sure whether we will see a TA or not!

Dang dude! "Serenity now...."
We don't know when we will see one, but we know we will see one eventually. And we know, 100%, without a shadow of a doubt, that it will allow more large RJ's at DCI yet be called a scope victory. And we know it will have at least several work rule concessions that may or may not be exceeded by gains but it will be called a net gain no matter what. We know it won't have SWA rates or W-2's for 130-ish seat narrowbody equipment and up from there, yet it will be called industry leading. Other than that its a mystery.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
DON'T JUDGE AN ENTIRE AGREEMENT BY A FEW BULLET POINTS!! You are literally NOT a party to the negotiations.......

Take a breath.... we aren't even sure whether we will see a TA or not!

Dang dude! "Serenity now...."
Bingo. It's pretty sad what we've been seeing on here lately.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Bingo. It's pretty sad what we've been seeing on here lately.
Guilty I guess. No one wants me to eat crow more than me though, believe me.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
We don't know when we will see one, but we know we will see one eventually. And we know, 100%, without a shadow of a doubt, that it will allow more large RJ's at DCI yet be called a scope victory. And we know it will have at least several work rule concessions that may or may not be exceeded by gains but it will be called a net gain no matter what. We know it won't have SWA rates or W-2's for 130-ish seat narrowbody equipment and up from there, yet it will be called industry leading. Other than that its a mystery.
Not to mention when it is out in its entirety it will be a mad frenzy to hard sell it as the best we can get and we better suck it up with the losses to get the 20% pay gain....all the while losing site that if we vote it in we create more career stagnation and will get beat up with ridiculous schedules keeping us more than ever from our families.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Guilty I guess. No one wants me to eat crow more than me though, believe me.
Normally I'm right with your posts, but here's where you lost me:

1. You've gone into deep speculation well beyond the level of detail that is known.

2. You've gone further and speculated into the consequences of that which you speculated on.


You're not the only one, but it boils down to just spinning your wheels and getting your blood pressure up (if you're senior to me, by all means keep it up ) over nothing.


In the meantime, I've nearly completely disconnected mentally from this until we see some actual language. That and laughing at hockeypilot calling himself permanently on rsv when he's projected to retire in the top 10 or so.
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