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13 days is what I am willing to work for 70 hours pay. As a commuter (I know, it's a choice), short call days are spent away from home therefore I consider them work days. I spend long call days at home, Even though I have to be ready to go, I am at home so I do not consider those work days. Obviously I can never plan on a long call day. Doing the math, I am happy with 70 hours pay any month where I get 5 long calls. I have been getting 5 or more long calls pretty consistently since September. I expect this to change in June.
I personally am not willing to give up what is in the negotiator's notepad for a higher guarantee. I can live with not getting credit for short call. It infuriates me though that lineholders get more credit for the exact same trip. Once you are assigned a trip on reserve, you should be treated as a lineholder for that trip. I had one trip on reserve towards the end of the month where I was about to break guarantee by about 4 hours. Our plane broke at an outstation in the middle of the day right after we pushed. 7 hours later we were flying that same plane back to ATL. Our last turn was obviously given to another crew. My captain got paid for it. I didn't even though we finished when we were supposed to. My point is reserves do not get cancellation pay. The 5:15 look-back is pretty much worthless due to dead-head only days and trips with less duty periods than calender days.
I personally am not willing to give up what is in the negotiator's notepad for a higher guarantee. I can live with not getting credit for short call. It infuriates me though that lineholders get more credit for the exact same trip. Once you are assigned a trip on reserve, you should be treated as a lineholder for that trip. I had one trip on reserve towards the end of the month where I was about to break guarantee by about 4 hours. Our plane broke at an outstation in the middle of the day right after we pushed. 7 hours later we were flying that same plane back to ATL. Our last turn was obviously given to another crew. My captain got paid for it. I didn't even though we finished when we were supposed to. My point is reserves do not get cancellation pay. The 5:15 look-back is pretty much worthless due to dead-head only days and trips with less duty periods than calender days.
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Interesting. So somewhere between 10 and 16 days/month is the sweet spot. What would that number be in your case? How many days/month would you be willing to work on reserve and be happy. Not flaming.. just asking.
Also, you have hit on something else that I don't think many realize either. Reserve differences due to seasonality, and how short calls are assigned. I find it really interesting that during the high op tempo months of summer (at least in my category) you will see 2-3 or so SC's per day, yet the flying has increased dramatically. In the winter months, when flying has throttled back considerably, we have MORE guys sitting SC. Why is that? Wouldn't an increase in flying during the summer months require a corresponding increase in SC requirements? Logic would tell me that it would because you have more opportunities for last minute sick outs... All of this tells me that there is NO.. as in zero logic to the assignation of said short calls. But all is well, we are gonna allow 7/month...
Also, you have hit on something else that I don't think many realize either. Reserve differences due to seasonality, and how short calls are assigned. I find it really interesting that during the high op tempo months of summer (at least in my category) you will see 2-3 or so SC's per day, yet the flying has increased dramatically. In the winter months, when flying has throttled back considerably, we have MORE guys sitting SC. Why is that? Wouldn't an increase in flying during the summer months require a corresponding increase in SC requirements? Logic would tell me that it would because you have more opportunities for last minute sick outs... All of this tells me that there is NO.. as in zero logic to the assignation of said short calls. But all is well, we are gonna allow 7/month...
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It's important for our pilots that have not sat reserve in years or ever to understand that this negotiator's notepad is concessionary and will affect everyone. Every single category will need less pilots.
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Quick question... anyone know what the min required time between short calls is if you do them two days in a row? For example, if I had a short call from 10am to 10pm, what time the next day would I be eligible for another short call?
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Originally Posted by Red Five
Quick question... anyone know what the min required time between short calls is if you do them two days in a row? For example, if I had a short call from 10am to 10pm, what time the next day would I be eligible for another short call?
I'm cool with that. Instead of increasing the reserve guarantee and asking us to work more and need less pilots in category, I say they keep it at 70 and we are only required 14 days on call.
It infuriates me though that lineholders get more credit for the exact same trip. Once you are assigned a trip on reserve, you should be treated as a lineholder for that trip. I had one trip on reserve towards the end of the month where I was about to break guarantee by about 4 hours. Our plane broke at an outstation in the middle of the day right after we pushed. 7 hours later we were flying that same plane back to ATL. Our last turn was obviously given to another crew. My captain got paid for it. I didn't even though we finished when we were supposed to.
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Almost 100 hours a year extra pay in your guarantee and 24 extra days off a year (at 30%+ more pay) is the profitable LCC standard yet the NNP doesn't even come remotely close to that.
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