Originally Posted by DeadHead

I guessing you probably didn't tell your kids that you were interested in "constructive engagement".

I'm wildly fascinated with the word semantics we are fed sometimes. I think it all depends on management's interpretation of the word "demand", it's not personal, it's a negotiation. I don't feel as though taking a stance should be interpreted as a move of disinterest towards "constructive engagement".

That's just me though...

Originally Posted by Grumble

Just to stoke the fire, if your kids sit around the house and don't do anything, does your mortgage still get paid?

Originally Posted by georgetg

Just for you Scoop:

Eggcorn (as in "Acorn"):
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Cheers
George

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

OOOH! COURT DOCUMENTS! I LOVE COURT DOCUMENTS!

They always cut to the chase and allows you to turn around and say "but, but I thought you said..."

It's almost as much fun as match the criminal with the item they stole!

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Dalpa puts out a lot more then a document on the contract. On every contract I have been involved with they put out a contract highlights package shortly after signing. Then they put out actual contract language prior to voting. About the same time they put out a extensive often section by section explanation of the contract. Then they put on a series of road shows at the major bases and geographic centers where pilots live. There are also concurrent MEC meetings ongoing where normally the negotiating team will show up for a question and answer. The road shows are also made available as a webcast.
Afer all that 1/3 of the pilot group will complain they did not get any information before voting. Another 1/3 will complain the MEC did a sell job on the TA. The last 1/3 will say contract? Are we in negotiations?
P.S. The MEC had better not bring me any contract for a vote unless they can stand up confidently and sell the contract as the best deal for Delta pilots and their families. If they can't do that then it should not even be released for a vote with one exception. There are situations where putting a bad contract to a vote can be a useful political tool to show pilot resolve. In that case it should simply be put before the pilot group with the understanding its not endorsed by the MEC. That has not happened at Delta yet.