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04-24-2012, 06:57 AM
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04-24-2012, 07:04 AM
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04-24-2012, 07:05 AM
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I had forgotten about the AMM flight. One possible problem was the DTW-JFK was RJ central after the merger. There was an occasional DC9 or 320, but not very often.
If you compare DTW-Montreal (YUL)-AMM on a A340 (with an hour ground time in YUL, most likely stay in your seats while new pax/crew get on) to DTW-JFK (on a 50-76 seat RJ) walk off the RJ, up the stairs, walk from T2 to T3 in a third-world terminal, with a probably 2 hour ground time. (not including ATC delays) Then JFK-AMM on a B767 - the premium traffic most likely would take Royal Jordanian than DL.
So we could probably fill the 767 to AMM, but with lower paying traffic.
That's just one route, but add in all the other traffic. JFK may seem on paper to be a great connecting hub for Delta, but the reality is that wasn't very good in terms of service or ATC delays. Sure, we can fill the planes but at what price?
If you compare DTW-Montreal (YUL)-AMM on a A340 (with an hour ground time in YUL, most likely stay in your seats while new pax/crew get on) to DTW-JFK (on a 50-76 seat RJ) walk off the RJ, up the stairs, walk from T2 to T3 in a third-world terminal, with a probably 2 hour ground time. (not including ATC delays) Then JFK-AMM on a B767 - the premium traffic most likely would take Royal Jordanian than DL.
So we could probably fill the 767 to AMM, but with lower paying traffic.
That's just one route, but add in all the other traffic. JFK may seem on paper to be a great connecting hub for Delta, but the reality is that wasn't very good in terms of service or ATC delays. Sure, we can fill the planes but at what price?
04-24-2012, 07:09 AM
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O&D traffic drives how successful a hub is. JFK is the O&D capital for international travel. Every time Delta has tried to move a flight from JFK to another hub it has failed completely. Yields and traffic drop like a stone. That is the reason for Delta's huge investment in the JFK infrastructure. It also functions perfect on a cost basis for anywhere on the eastcoast since most traffic passes over JFK going to Europe. Its a lot more expensive to fly a passenger to DTW or ATL to connect them to NYC then to fly to NYC and connect them to those destinations.
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04-24-2012, 07:15 AM
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DeltaNet is working for me, but I use the Atomic Web Browser on my iPhone & iPad. Maybe try a different browser?
04-24-2012, 07:44 AM
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Ok.... No one else wants to comment on the news out today that DAL wants to increase their investment in GOL from 3% up to 20%???
Lots of articles on yahoo major airline news about it...
Let's do the math:
GOL 3% stake = $200,000,000 from DAL coffers
roughly 1% = $66,666,666 million for each 1% investment
Increasing the DAL stake by 17%....
DAL puts out an additional $1,133,333,333. Yes, OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
That says the company is seeing VERY strong revenues and will be able to pay up for the restoration of the pilot contract!
Lots of articles on yahoo major airline news about it...
Let's do the math:
GOL 3% stake = $200,000,000 from DAL coffers
roughly 1% = $66,666,666 million for each 1% investment
Increasing the DAL stake by 17%....
DAL puts out an additional $1,133,333,333. Yes, OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
That says the company is seeing VERY strong revenues and will be able to pay up for the restoration of the pilot contract!
04-24-2012, 07:50 AM
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Ok.... No one else wants to comment on the news out today that DAL wants to increase their investment in GOL from 3% up to 20%???
Lots of articles on yahoo major airline news about it...
Let's do the math:
GOL 3% stake = $200,000,000 from DAL coffers
roughly 1% = $66,666,666 million for each 1% investment
Increasing the DAL stake by 17%....
DAL puts out an additional $1,133,333,333. Yes, OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
That says the company is seeing VERY strong revenues and will be able to pay up for the restoration of the pilot contract!
Lots of articles on yahoo major airline news about it...
Let's do the math:
GOL 3% stake = $200,000,000 from DAL coffers
roughly 1% = $66,666,666 million for each 1% investment
Increasing the DAL stake by 17%....
DAL puts out an additional $1,133,333,333. Yes, OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
That says the company is seeing VERY strong revenues and will be able to pay up for the restoration of the pilot contract!
Shiz;
Don't you want to work for a profitable company?
How come you want to take money away from the company's bottom line?
The company cannot possibly afford a high cost pilot contract, it would affect our access to capital and stunt our stock price.
I think we do better by getting profit sharing.
11% raises are generous in the extreme.
Scambo
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04-24-2012, 07:57 AM
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Ok.... No one else wants to comment on the news out today that DAL wants to increase their investment in GOL from 3% up to 20%???
Lots of articles on yahoo major airline news about it...
Let's do the math:
GOL 3% stake = $200,000,000 from DAL coffers
roughly 1% = $66,666,666 million for each 1% investment
Increasing the DAL stake by 17%....
DAL puts out an additional $1,133,333,333. Yes, OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
That says the company is seeing VERY strong revenues and will be able to pay up for the restoration of the pilot contract!
Lots of articles on yahoo major airline news about it...
Let's do the math:
GOL 3% stake = $200,000,000 from DAL coffers
roughly 1% = $66,666,666 million for each 1% investment
Increasing the DAL stake by 17%....
DAL puts out an additional $1,133,333,333. Yes, OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
That says the company is seeing VERY strong revenues and will be able to pay up for the restoration of the pilot contract!
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04-24-2012, 07:57 AM
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Ok.... No one else wants to comment on the news out today that DAL wants to increase their investment in GOL from 3% up to 20%???
Lots of articles on yahoo major airline news about it...
Let's do the math:
GOL 3% stake = $200,000,000 from DAL coffers
roughly 1% = $66,666,666 million for each 1% investment
Increasing the DAL stake by 17%....
DAL puts out an additional $1,133,333,333. Yes, OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
That says the company is seeing VERY strong revenues and will be able to pay up for the restoration of the pilot contract!
Lots of articles on yahoo major airline news about it...
Let's do the math:
GOL 3% stake = $200,000,000 from DAL coffers
roughly 1% = $66,666,666 million for each 1% investment
Increasing the DAL stake by 17%....
DAL puts out an additional $1,133,333,333. Yes, OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
That says the company is seeing VERY strong revenues and will be able to pay up for the restoration of the pilot contract!
I need to look it up in the PWA, but isn't our threshold for ownership 25%?
I also saw it, but just got back from running my momma duties.
That is a lot of money, and it makes me wonder why DAL wants to protect this feed so much? I mean. this would basically allow them to move them to a different alliance if they wanted to, or control their schedules.
That is a lot of money to invest for any ole reason.
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