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Old 04-23-2012, 10:30 PM
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Metro Airport asks travelers' help to gain Detroit-Dubai air service



12:54 PM, April 23, 2012 |



By Ellen Creager

Detroit Free Press Travel Writer


Vote for Dubai!

Detroit Metro Airport is using social media to pressure either Emirates Airlines or Delta Air Lines to add nonstop service from Detroit to Dubai, United Arab Emirates.


Hoping air traveler pleas will grab airlines’ attention, Metro officials have set up an online petition for service, arguing that the largest Arab-American population outside the Middle East lives in metro Detroit. Dubai also is a direct gateway to 17 destinations in India – a spot many Michiganders and auto-related business travelers need to fly.


Travelers can go to Detroit to Dubai dot com to sign the petition.


“We’ve actually had meetings with the airlines already to talk to them about the possibility of service, but obviously I’d rather have a large number of people sign the petition,” said Joe Cambron, director of air service development. These days, routes are not set up just based on backroom discussions, he said: “Airlines like to see people responding to online petitions.“


One reason for urgency is that Detroit is trying to get nonstop service to Dubai before Chicago does. Right now, the Midwest has no nonstop passenger service to Dubai. Emirates is growing quickly and poised to become the largest airline in the world within three years. It flies nonstop from Dubai to Houston, Dallas, New York JFK, Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles. It adds Washington Dulles in September.


Delta already flies nonstop from Atlanta to Dubai.


A Dubai destination would serve metro Detroit’s Iraqi, Lebanese and Yemeni communities as well as business and leisure travelers headed to the Middle East and beyond, Cambron said. Although many in metro Detroit have family back in Lebanon, “we can’t get nonstops to Beirut at this point because of security requirements,” he said.


The chance to link Detroit more quickly with India also is important for airport growth because it’s the largest country in terms of airline traffic to which Metro Airport has no nonstop service. About 240 people fly back and forth between Detroit and India daily, Cambron said.


Emirates flies huge aircraft, including the Airbus A380, but Metro could get certification for any plane it used, Metro spokesman Michael Conway said.


"We put the petition up already. We have not marketed it all. We accumulated 100 signatures just from people happening to run into it. it’s a good sign," he said.
Patience lads, Qatar announced service to Detroit starting in 2013.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg


One reason for urgency is that Detroit is trying to get nonstop service to Dubai before Chicago does. Right now, the Midwest has no nonstop passenger service to Dubai. Emirates is growing quickly and poised to become the largest airline in the world within three years. It flies nonstop from Dubai to Houston, Dallas, New York JFK, Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles. It adds Washington Dulles in September.
Some reason this all that sank in when I read that
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:11 AM
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Some reason this all that sank in when I read that
Yep, they are hiring DEC's right now because they cannot find enough sim time to upgrade ppl.

The only thing limiting the pace at which they grow, is their ability to train pilots......
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Metro Airport asks travelers' help to gain Detroit-Dubai air service

Vote for Dubai!

Detroit Metro Airport is using social media to pressure either Emirates Airlines or Delta Air Lines set up an online petition for service, arguing that the largest Arab-American population outside the Middle East lives in metro Detroit. Dubai also is a direct gateway to 17 destinations in India – a spot many Michiganders and auto-related business travelers need
they are leaving out a detail or two. There was direct DTW-Amman, Jordon service on Royal Jordanian for a year or two, but I guess the market couldn't fill it. Now it goes DTW-Montreal-Amman.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:18 AM
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:54 AM
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Anyone ever get an answer on why or how to prevent DLnet and icrew logging you off. I've been having the problem for several days and this morning is the worst! When I can finally get logged on it logs me off after browsing only 2-3 pages. Can't get anything done...
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
they are leaving out a detail or two. There was direct DTW-Amman, Jordon service on Royal Jordanian for a year or two, but I guess the market couldn't fill it. Now it goes DTW-Montreal-Amman.
Also, when we had JFK to AMM, we couldn't make it work, despite drawing from the New York area, DTW via an easy connection , and a pretty large contingent of US government contractors working in Iraq. I'd like to see AMM come back, but I'm not too hopeful
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:16 AM
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Ever get the feeling between $150 million dollar refineries, and now potentially $800 million invested in another airline, Delta isn't going broke? In fact they have enough money to start paying a long overdue loan they received from their pilots? If you don't ask ALPA and just think for yourself for a moment, there is enough money being generated for some sizable raises while still remaining a healthy, thriving company.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
Also, when we had JFK to AMM, we couldn't make it work, despite drawing from the New York area, DTW via an easy connection , and a pretty large contingent of US government contractors working in Iraq. I'd like to see AMM come back, but I'm not too hopeful
I had forgotten about the AMM flight. One possible problem was the DTW-JFK was RJ central after the merger. There was an occasional DC9 or 320, but not very often.

If you compare DTW-Montreal (YUL)-AMM on a A340 (with an hour ground time in YUL, most likely stay in your seats while new pax/crew get on) to DTW-JFK (on a 50-76 seat RJ) walk off the RJ, up the stairs, walk from T2 to T3 in a third-world terminal, with a probably 2 hour ground time. (not including ATC delays) Then JFK-AMM on a B767 - the premium traffic most likely would take Royal Jordanian than DL.

So we could probably fill the 767 to AMM, but with lower paying traffic.

That's just one route, but add in all the other traffic. JFK may seem on paper to be a great connecting hub for Delta, but the reality is that wasn't very good in terms of service or ATC delays. Sure, we can fill the planes but at what price?
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:42 AM
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Anyone else having probs with Deltanet this morning? Can't even get to login page. 1040AM EDT
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