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Old 07-07-2009, 05:12 PM
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Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a federal statue that requires businesses above a certain size to notify employees 60 days in advance of mass layoffs or firings.

Another little known part of federal law that you, the aviation professional, will probably get to learn about sometime over the course of your career. I have two laying around somewhere. Yay!
Yes, 60 days is required by law & I believe our contract requires 90 days notice. But for now, we don't have to worry about either.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:22 PM
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Okay, how bad off is UAL and USAir? I've been reading, hell I've been reading about UAL liquidating for seemingly 8-9 years now, so how bad is it this time?
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Yes, 60 days is required by law & I believe our contract requires 90 days notice. But for now, we don't have to worry about either.
That's true...... Especially with that great furlough protection our union got us for giving away more scope
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:39 PM
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DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

The president of Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) unit Comair warned employees Monday to be prepared for more layoffs and furloughs, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported Tuesday. John Bendoraitis told workers in a companywide memo that the cuts are the result of Delta paring back operations in September, including a 20% reduction in Comair flights. Bendoraitis said that the number of layoffs hasn't been determined but that an announcement is expected in the next two weeks. Many of the layoffs will be made at JFK International Airport in New York, where Comair operates 60% of its flights, he said.
Full story at Comair warns of more layoffs | Cincinnati.com | Cincinnati.Com
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Speaking of over staffed, has anyone come across another DAL pilot submitting a volunteer leave of absence request and it being approved? As a bottom guy who is looking at back up plans I'm curious as to the likelihood of getting approved if I submit one. Logic being if I'm offered a flying job with a military contractor (not active duty nor reserve--military contractor) that actually pays more in the near/mid- future than I could hope to earn with DAL I should take it rather than saying, "No, not interested." only to be furloughed at some point in the future. Anyone with inside info please speak up; best to put in for two years LOA to make it worth DAL's while? This position would be year-to-year if I were offered the position. I spoke to CPSC and Crew Resources, but they can't make any promises, and didn't want to offer much conjecture as to what to expect.

Oh, and PM me too please--might help in making a decision if one needs to be made.
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I do know a guy who was just denied an LOA that was in pretty much the same boat as you. They told him he was needed even though he had just been displaced and hadn't started training yet. He has since resigned.
I also looked into an LOA with the CP but got the same answer as you. Seems to me that you have to go through the process and officially ask for it to find out if they will accept it or not.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Hornet1
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I do know a guy who was just denied an LOA that was in pretty much the same boat as you. They told him he was needed even though he had just been displaced and hadn't started training yet. He has since resigned.
I also looked into an LOA with the CP but got the same answer as you. Seems to me that you have to go through the process and officially ask for it to find out if they will accept it or not.
All I can say is YGBSM.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hornet1
Gun,
I do know a guy who was just denied an LOA that was in pretty much the same boat as you. They told him he was needed even though he had just been displaced and hadn't started training yet. He has since resigned.
I also looked into an LOA with the CP but got the same answer as you. Seems to me that you have to go through the process and officially ask for it to find out if they will accept it or not.
I asked for leave, twice and was denied and sent to displacement training. They need bodies on the smaller aircraft and once they found a suckka, I mean, PILOT, to fly a narrow body they are a hot commodity (pun intended).
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:17 PM
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Ferd,

Hey brother. Worked like a charm. Thanks. Nice to have ICrew on the IPhone.

Cheers,
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Can't figure out how to see who is listed on flights aka non-rev lists. Does anyone have a fix to that on iPhone???
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:20 PM
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App store, did a search for Journey. 99cents. Hold 3 fingers on the screen to pull up settings then "pretend to be". I said IE8 but I guess firefox works too.

Your up and running, works great, lasts a long time.

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Brilliant!!! I owe you many beers if we ever cross paths. The wife bought me an Iphone a few months ago and I was disappointed that I couldn't get on ecrew/icrew. Now I can really justify the monthly fee. Heck, I can probably count it as legitimate write off.
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Old 07-07-2009, 06:25 PM
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Might need more new pilots in 18 months (not to say we would, but indicates that 's when something new might show up)?

Won't effect senior guys much (wouldn't be anything guys would skip retirement for)?

He didn't bite on the MD-90's that someone else posted (although he did say that might happen too, not a big secret ). Plus MD-90's could also be just a sawp with 80's...not really a guarantee of growth.


My money is now on exercising some options we have on 737's.
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