coryk

Gotcha. Ya, I knew there wasn't an "official" requirement for it, but it seem liked most had it, but I guess that's because of the lack of hiring before which allowed RJ guys to get quite a bit of TPIC.

Interesting times ahead that's for sure!

80ktsClamp

4000 hrs total time was the threshold with tpic... About 7000 was necessary without.

Brocc15

I don't know where you guys are getting these numbers, but I know they are not correct for past hiring. Even for people without really strong "connections." Just apply regardless of if you think it will be enough, you never know they might like the college you went to, your extra activities, or whatever. I applied really hoping to get hired, but I thought there was no way I would get an interview, but knew it would be worth it to show interest while I continued to build time, and then surprise I get an invite. Don't let numbers you hear keep you from trying.

coryk

What were your times if you don't me asking?

CVG767A

This AMR stuff is a heck of a lot more relevant to us than most of the stuff that's discussed on this thread. If we can tolerate discussions of college football here (yawn), we can certainly tolerate a few posts about the merger of two of our competitors.





Side boob, underboob, and the honey badger are always relevant.

DeadHead

I've been told that "close connections" don't mean a whole heck of a lot at DAL.
It's nowhere near a nepotism clause like they have at UPS (I think), but I do believe the are leery of hiring on the basis of being family.
At best, I've hear it may help one get an interview, but those who attempt to lean on that relationship during the panel review will more than likely have a disappointing day.

The hiring is supposed to get pretty aggressive towards the end of this decade, so I imagine total time minimums/requirements may reduce. One thing about DAL is that they look at the quality of the flight time, and not just the quantity.

Recommendations and personal references will "help" someone who is close to the minimums, especially if you manage to get a MD88 Stamp of Approval from FTB.


Hope this helps out....Good Luck

coryk

Interesting points. For the vast majority without family connections that comes as a nice relief.

I wonder how one would get that "quality" when the most common time for us civilians is from an "insert 50-70 seat RJ." Not saying it isn't quality, but also very common.

Bill Lumberg

OH COME ON!!! AMR stuff has nothing to do with us? Are you on the Dalpa NC? It sounds like it. Now our NC has some extra work to do. No more "The NMB will get involved because AA asked for too much....." They won't be paid severe BK wages if this Parker deal goes through, and it looks like he is well on his way to pleasing the creditors (Boeing/Airbus), the Gov't (keeps HQ in DFW) while saving 6200 of the proposed 13,000 job cuts, and the big unions. The new AA/US numbers have just replaced the old baseline for calculating our raises. It's the cost of doing business. And, the more of a raise we get, the more it will affect the new AA when they have to match it 2 years after DOS. Our guys had better start looking at this soon. NO EXCUSES.

Bucking Bar

Both true and not true.

A quality internal recommendation using the Delta.com e-mail address used to mean quite a bit in the ranking. Characteristics of a "quality" internal rec:

• Pilot who has flown with you
• Specific about your qualifications / skills
• Well written

However, once invited for an interview, the actual process is very objective. IMHO Delta runs a thorough, fair and friendly interview process. Knowing nearly immediately if you made the cut is very nice. No waiting for two weeks ...

DeadHead

The whole "quality" of flight time response was meant for military fighter pilots, for example, overall their total flight time might be low since fighter jets tend to have shorter missions, but obviously that shouldn't disqualify a candidate on that basis. I think that is why DAL has never used "hard mins", instead they prefer to get well rounded applicants while using total time as just another metric.

It's not just about flight experience either, building a good professional resume/background can speak volumes.