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Old 04-20-2012, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
I can't imagine being anyway near the interweb while in Prague 1.
I was fortunate enough to have a 48 hour layover in PRG on TOE. Did a lot of walking. What a beautiful city.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I was fortunate enough to have a 48 hour layover in PRG on TOE. Did a lot of walking. What a beautiful city.
Yes. it. is.

You should have seen it in the late eighties, yikes!

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Old 04-20-2012, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 1234
Lemme guess, the only thing that you looked at on that walk around was the motors.

Yeahbut...nothing else really matters, does it?
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
I can't imagine being anyway near the interweb while in Prague 1.
And yet for many others, including those that have never been, the internets is strongly associated with Prague. Hmmmm.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Do you guys see the rumor of what's being offered at AA/US Air?

If it's true and it goes through, it looks like their pay will be tied to our pay. 3% better at first, then at least equal for quite some time.....

Now, that's imagination. I guess they didn't have any naysayers over there.

I'm still looking for a HUGE payraise and this rumor solidifies my thoughts on the subject.....


RUMOR from another thread:

US Air offer:
What about scope though. Its better to liquidate than to allow the C Series to be outsourced.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I agree, ACL. I think it's great. LCC has ultra-low costs, and low revenue. The combined airline would need a hell of an increase in revenue to offset the increase in costs.

This actually helps our management farme their thinking about a substantial raise. They want to give us industry standard, and we want industry leading? This turns whatever we do into the standard. With two out of three large competitors paying "Delta Plus", United can match.

What could possibly go wrong now?
C Series. Comac. Mitsubishi. Sukhoi. Unlimited "LCC" domestic code sharing. Outsourcing.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The reality is Parker just opened himself up to asinine costs. RA could literally jack our rates so high that they fail on those costs alone. Dumb move for parker given where DAL is heading and our ability to actually pay and afford that level of raise.

The fact remains that even as a combined carrier, there is a ton of rationalization that needs to occur to make them a successful airline.

I often wonder if this is just APA's version of Texas Holdem with Horton. APA now has an out, even though it will be an ugly process.
While I don't see it playing out like that, its still a potentially interesting angle to look at it from.

Management wanting to give us massive raises.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
While I don't see it playing out like that, its still a potentially interesting angle to look at it from.

Management wanting to give us massive raises.

I hear ya. Just stating what options are available to him. Helps us too!
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The reality is Parker just opened himself up to asinine costs. RA could literally jack our rates so high that they fail on those costs alone. Dumb move for parker given where DAL is heading and our ability to actually pay and afford that level of raise.

The fact remains that even as a combined carrier, there is a ton of rationalization that needs to occur to make them a successful airline.

I often wonder if this is just APA's version of Texas Holdem with Horton. APA now has an out, even though it will be an ugly process.
That's ok, he'll just get it all back in AA Bankruptcy, Part 2, the sequel, 3 years later.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
What about scope though. Its better to liquidate than to allow the C Series to be outsourced.
We are at the point where there shouldn't even be any talk of concessions of any kind. (Scope, pay, work rules, retirement, etc.) The possibility of US Airways and American making more than us after doing nothing that even approaches what the employees / pilots of DAL did to make our merger work should squash all talk of losing ground anywhere.

That should be our mindset from here on out, if it wasn't already.

If their DAL pay tie in rumor is true, it should be a signal to all Delta pilots to stop underestimating not only what we are worth, but also stop underestimating what we can attain.
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