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Old 04-18-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Correct.. if.... Iwo is available. if not.. I believe it IS an ETOPS flight. I do not have my notes in front of me, but I believe this is the case..
and it just has to be open, not good weather. I've seen the wind @ a thousand gusting to a million and it still an acceptable ETOPs alternate. I guess it's because if you land there with something other than an uncontrolled fire the company is going to kick you right square in the box. I think Iwo now have customs but there is no hotel. You'll be trapped on the jet till a rescue mission arrives.......in probably 24 hours.

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Originally Posted by Xray678
First of all, I doubt their language is tight enough to force Boeing to force the next lessor to take AT pilots with the aircraft. Second, the 717s will be replaced, maybe not on a 1 for 1 basis, but there is no way SW gets rid of that much capacity without a replacement. Last, I don't see any possibility that someone takes those aircraft if it means the pilots come with them. Boeing and Southwest know that.
According to the all knowing wikipedia, there are 88 717s at FL/SWA and 190 737-700s orders, another 71 738 orders, and another 150 737-Maxine orders.

Ya'll help me with my math that's 1:4.7 ratio?

Seems pretty good to me.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
The deal has to be right for the 717s to come over... and the cost is too high right now. "Assumption" of those leases will come at a cost (and not to Delta) watch how it unfolds....
Plus where is the sims, spare parts, etc? I think getting some of the 319s floating around makes more since from a logistical standpoint.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I tried that, but to pay someone 3K bucks to lay sod is just insane. I can get the whole thing done in two days, or about 20 hrs of work. Plus, it will keep me off of here.
Pickemuptruck and a trip to the depot combined with a handful of 20s and you have your back saver.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope
Exactly right....200K/month sound about right?
I doubt $200K/mo. That'd probably mean the airplanes are being acquired for $20M each figuring the industry standard 1% of value per month. Now 2 airplanes for $20M sounds like a better deal.

But who says we have to pay for them? There is stuff that can be negotiated, we have stuff they want. It's not always about money.
But knowing them, they probably want too much stuff.
I'm sure Delta, Boeing and Southwest have all been sexting their ideas for a year and half or more.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Plus where is the sims, spare parts, etc? I think getting some of the 319s floating around makes more since from a logistical standpoint.
We got sims. They're in MSP for now.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
We got sims. They're in MSP for now.
Sorry, I wasn't very clear (nothing new) I mean 717 sims
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Rumor today swirling over in SWALand is that the 717 sale to DAL is complete, and will be announced on Friday.

MEC being briefed today at the Special MEC meeting on the purchase.

In other news, water is still wet, fire is still hot, and Gutter is still a tool.

Don't pile on the messenger, this is just some wild rumor I heard from an AT guy. I thought it was kinda funny.

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Old 04-18-2012, 06:04 PM
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Anyone know an easy (preferably cheap) transit from March Air Reserve Base (Riverside, CA) to LAX?

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Ferd, I'm still buzzin' from the beers I had with the 717 sim guru here in the ATL. He lives a block away from me. Boeing owns the 717 sims and their Alteon branch provides the service in Atlanta. Plenty of sims available locally. I'm sure we could still use those sims and the service from Alteon and use our instructors. That's a fact jack!.......n coke.
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