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Old 04-13-2012, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
I was just providing a link to a home in a Golf Course Community near Lake Allatoona which I knew had a "Delta Discount."

NICRO Properties WOW......DESIGN, APPEAL AND OF COURSE LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION! - Acworth, Georgia

Liked this one, but it sold:

NICRO Properties SOLD! 5222 Bridgewater Drive - Acworth, Georgia

All the East Cobb stuff gets gone in a hurry. Here is one in an awesome neighborhood / location. This is it for right now:

NICRO Properties 4501 N Slope Circle - Marietta, Georgia
Wow. That last one is the subdivision right next to mine. Absolutely love the area and you can't do much better than Mabry/Lassitter when it comes to schools. Mark me down as another strong vote for NE Cobb County.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:39 PM
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I'm applying. Looking for a place with career advancement opportunities--rather than the extended and indefinite stagnation here. Thanks again, DALPA.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...ka-hiring.html
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Gloop,

There's no money in freight, so we outsource it.

There's no money in flying small jets, so we outsource it.

There's no money in the shuttle, so we outsource that to the small jets.
Yeah, although with what, 14 billion in RJ's purchased at housing bubble peak prices, over bought and over committed, 2 billion for Comair plus another billion dollar strike and a slow write down to less than zero, 1.5 billion for ASA only to immediately flip them for 400 million, all the operational dis-synnergies inherent in a 7 or 8 stepchild conglomerate monstrosity, a self induced Pinnacle BK/bailout, the stain in our britches from the Mesa experiment and now GoJets, directly subsidizing Frontier and a mass transfer to Alaska (effectively writing down much of the value of a previous merger) wherein we supposedly don't share revenue for the segments they fly makes a pretty strong case for "there's no money in outsourcing".

And that's just domestic.

Or maybe the MBA Factories are spitting out grads on par with the legions of basket weaver majors with double minors in self esteem and feelings because when you look at the raw numbers of their little outsource experiment over the last decade and a half, not even Charlie Sheen would call it winning. Even David Hasslehoff eating the cheeseburger off the floor while his crying daughter taped him and put it on the internets would be like "daymn doods, that's sad."
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:58 PM
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Extra Extra, read all about it!!!!! Delta passengers not exposed to rabies!!!

Omg the media is so freaking stoopid.
The bat got away, so there was no way to know if it was rabid. One way to tell was if one of the pax went rabid, or as my Dr. once told me, "I'm stumped, we'll know more at the autopsy".
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
In related news, DALPA is rumored to be "actively engaging" the company in an effort to craft a code share agreement that grossly favors Qatar and further erodes Delta pilots' futures.
Why don't you take it to the Donut thread, troll? Your lame attempt at humor is just that... lame.
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:06 PM
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Some captain bids out...
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
I'm applying. Looking for a place with career advancement opportunities--rather than the extended and indefinite stagnation here. Thanks again, DALPA.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...ka-hiring.html
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out! C Ya!
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:43 PM
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de-le-ted.
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Yeah, although with what, 14 billion in RJ's purchased at housing bubble peak prices, over bought and over committed, 2 billion for Comair plus another billion dollar strike and a slow write down to less than zero, 1.5 billion for ASA only to immediately flip them for 400 million, all the operational dis-synnergies inherent in a 7 or 8 stepchild conglomerate monstrosity, a self induced Pinnacle BK/bailout, the stain in our britches from the Mesa experiment and now GoJets, directly subsidizing Frontier and a mass transfer to Alaska (effectively writing down much of the value of a previous merger) wherein we supposedly don't share revenue for the segments they fly makes a pretty strong case for "there's no money in outsourcing".

And that's just domestic.

Or maybe the MBA Factories are spitting out grads on par with the legions of basket weaver majors with double minors in self esteem and feelings because when you look at the raw numbers of their little outsource experiment over the last decade and a half, not even Charlie Sheen would call it winning. Even David Hasslehoff eating the cheeseburger off the floor while his crying daughter taped him and put it on the internets would be like "daymn doods, that's sad."
Here's the business model and it's well proven to work, it's called the life cycle business model:

1. You build your company with good employees (mainline pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, gate agents, et al).


You hire this guy when he is young. He's your first employee. You build the company together. You love him. You throw around the word family. You pay generously as soon as the money is available.

Eventually, he gets old. Technology passes him by and he doesn't know it. He talks about "the way it used to be" and complains about how complicated his VCR was and how hard it is to buy movies on VHS tape now. He knows there is "DVD" fad out there and he refuses to do it.

By the way, he wants more money because his lifestyle ain't cheap.
2. Replace
So offer your older pilot... I mean employee... some more money if he doesn't mind giving up some work he doesn't want to do anyways. He says sure. Eventually, you can have him just give up work and you don't have to give him a raise.

And you hire Coma...this guy...



for half of what you were paying the old guy. He's got a decent track record, somewhat reliable, can handle a VCR and knows they're out of date and can somewhat hook up a DVD player to the flat screen. Glad to have the work, more money and stability than he had before. Just not ready for the big stage, content where he is.

Problem is, he gets expensive as he gets older. So scratch this business model it's not going to work and you're stuck with this guy until you try to drive him out.
3. Get Interns
This is the way to go as soon as possible. Cheap. Do anything. May work for less than it costs him to live. Might go bankrupt. As he gets older and out of his parents basement he is going to need more money.

DON'T GIVE IT TO HIM!



He'll eventually leave and you can hire a new intern. Try to set up the pay to be 10 years max, you want him gone before he gets married and settles in and really can't afford life on what you pay. If they want longer or more money, ask for fuel risk sharing... I mean risk sharing, and as long as he decides to stay with you buy have a second job to afford it, it's a win. Or get him to go bankrupt and fire him.
4. Use Foreigners
To be continued...



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Old 04-13-2012, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Yeah, although with what, 14 billion in RJ's purchased at housing bubble peak prices, over bought and over committed, 2 billion for Comair plus another billion dollar strike and a slow write down to less than zero, 1.5 billion for ASA only to immediately flip them for 400 million, all the operational dis-synnergies inherent in a 7 or 8 stepchild conglomerate monstrosity, a self induced Pinnacle BK/bailout, the stain in our britches from the Mesa experiment and now GoJets, directly subsidizing Frontier and a mass transfer to Alaska (effectively writing down much of the value of a previous merger) wherein we supposedly don't share revenue for the segments they fly makes a pretty strong case for "there's no money in outsourcing".

And that's just domestic.

Or maybe the MBA Factories are spitting out grads on par with the legions of basket weaver majors with double minors in self esteem and feelings because when you look at the raw numbers of their little outsource experiment over the last decade and a half, not even Charlie Sheen would call it winning. Even David Hasslehoff eating the cheeseburger off the floor while his crying daughter taped him and put it on the internets would be like "daymn doods, that's sad."
Genius. Guys always comparing rasm, casm, etc. The operation makes money, and increases the companies value or it doesn't. In many of these cases the pilots could have been flying for free on stolen jet-a and it still would have been a net loss to the company. You have to look at the whole picture including customer loyalty, quality control, and future value. Takes more than a actuarial degree and a free Tuesday night.

I'd like to see the total write downs on all things RJ from 2002-2012.
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