Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-08-2012, 05:30 PM
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"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams, 'Argument in Defense of the Soldiers in the Boston Massacre Trials,' December 1770
I'm all for a better way to run things. Show me one and convince me that it works. I'll be with you, and won't even throw rocks from the sidelines. Otherwise, I'll stick with the plan that has put more money in pilot pockets.
I'm all for a better way to run things. Show me one and convince me that it works. I'll be with you, and won't even throw rocks from the sidelines. Otherwise, I'll stick with the plan that has put more money in pilot pockets.
The Delta MEC supposes the Delta pilots are too stupid and uninformed to know what is best for them. For the most part, I suppose the MEC is correct.
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04-08-2012, 05:33 PM
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I guess I'm doing things right when I'm accused by the DPA people of being biased for DALPA and vice versa by the DALPA people.
04-08-2012, 05:37 PM
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It is definitely a tightening of scope.
04-08-2012, 05:42 PM
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The lines that you bolded from the opener are what are so incredibly vague that they are of little substance.
04-08-2012, 05:43 PM
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I think you and the mods should talk, and I think posters ought to consider helping. I don't really see a way you can get into the crux of the discussion about what we're doing to further our goals, when it's aparent many people are only interested in who would be doing whatever we'll do.
Got a post that's mostly talking which is the best CBA? Moderate it home. It has a home, it's just temporarily lost in the L&G. Guide it home, ever so gently, and lovingly.
04-08-2012, 05:46 PM
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"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams, 'Argument in Defense of the Soldiers in the Boston Massacre Trials,' December 1770
Carl
04-08-2012, 05:47 PM
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I do take them at their word that they will improve Scope. I do understand there is a lot to do there, at both ends of the gauge spectrum. I can live with a "conceptual" opener. I just want "improve" to mean "improve".
But never mind the negotiators: I'm curious about Slowplay's vision. What do you think we should do with the DCI issue, Slowplay?
04-08-2012, 05:49 PM
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Hopefully a sign that negotiators are considering a number of fresh approaches to the issue.
I do take them at their word that they will improve Scope. I do understand there is a lot to do there, at both ends of the gauge spectrum.
But never mind the negotiators: I'm curious about Slowplay's vision. What do you think we should do with the DCI issue, Slowplay?
I do take them at their word that they will improve Scope. I do understand there is a lot to do there, at both ends of the gauge spectrum.
But never mind the negotiators: I'm curious about Slowplay's vision. What do you think we should do with the DCI issue, Slowplay?
04-08-2012, 05:53 PM
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Carl
04-08-2012, 05:56 PM
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My perspective:
I thought the prop limit in the contract already is 76 seats. The new definition doesn't have seat limits.
Allowing geared turbofans enables newer gen aircraft at DCI, IOW it doesn't remove them...IOW not a tightening of scope, instead extending the outsourcing.
If geared turbofans were NOT permitted, that would be a tightening of scope and certainly contracts would be sunsetted in somebody's lifetime.
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