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Old 04-05-2012, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
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Thanks for a new "word of the day." I'm smarter for being here.
As my boss used to say, "Dude, you've been educated far beyond your intelligence." With that encouragement, I became a pilot.
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Another angle (which is impossible to calculate) is how many will get frustrated with the stagnation and simply quit. My new hire class might not be the average, but at least half the class is talking leaving for other opportunities, or a career change. Lots of buzz about Emirates and other expat jobs, some have successful side businesses.

When a large number of guys have Master's Degrees, Delta can't honestly expect for them to be content with a ten year span of being a FO on entry level equipment and making less than they were in the 1990's. A pay cut is one thing, this sort of stagnation is something else. It took several displacements to get me to where I am today.

While Richard might enjoy sitting at C E Woolman's desk, none of of kid ourselves with nostalgic notions about the way the Company sees itself. Delta is a brand manager which cares not who makes the product. In turn, our loyalty is about as deep as an excel spread-sheet. We will do a good job while we are here. When it is time to move on, it will be time to move on.

ACL is the only reason I'm here now. Hey, ACL, my projections on stagnation post merger, was I right, or was I right?
Right on stagnation, wrong on furloughs. I do believe if the economy did not go TU we would be in a different part of the cycle, but alas, it ain't so.

I am the reason you are staying? Why? God help us
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
Where did this number come from?
It's what the cpo was stating we were over last fall for the winter months. I asked for clarification on above PBS min staffing or above the number the generally keep as extra so the wheels do not come off and they did not know.

Fwiw, given where asm's and block hrs are going, I see this summer being tight even though we are probably overstaffed by upper single digits. (total and my guess is 3% above where the staffing would trigger hiring) My guess is we will hit that magic number in next summer block plan if we add back to Europe and definitely if we add a jet.
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
If put in the system with no margin for weather or operational delays ... meaning massive, rolling, cancellations if things go bad. In reality, there is weather and operational effluvia, meaning the crew rest rules are effectively neutral.
Oh I agree with that. I laughed when I heard that. My guess is with duty limits and rolling duty limits, reserve sc limited et al, we probably need 300 or so.

Taking care of the limits they hit via reroute is a mess and that is why reserves need rotation guarantee.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:17 PM
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This happened to me today (dude in orange).

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Old 04-05-2012, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
This happened to me today (dude in orange).

If you need to play this game, the stall is best for you. The proud take the center and stand 2 ft away
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
If you need to play this game, the stall is best for you. The proud take the center and stand 2 ft away
Dunno, but the water was cold.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Dunno, but the water was cold.
Deep too.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Deep too.
I think one of them was from arkansas
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I think one of them was from arkansas
Not from Arkansas, just don't care what guys think. Come to think of it, don't care what girls think either. Haha
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