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Old 04-04-2012, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
Ahh. Of course. Delta pilots favorite past time. Flying into unsafe meteorological conditions unnecessarily.
Line pilots are presented with a continuous series of potentially unsafe "conditions". Be they meteorological, mechanical or other. Each of those conditions is only truly unsafe if the pilot doesn't have the skills to handle it and/or the judgment and experience to know when to avoid it.
In order to recruit and retain professionals who possess those qualities you have to compensate them appropriately.
Its my opinion that our compensation has fallen well below that level.
Airlines are operating on a sort of "safety inertia" right now. We need to reverse the degradation of this profession or there will be consequences.
We're already seeing that reflected in certain accident reports.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential

We need to reverse the degradation of this profession or there will be consequences.
We're already seeing that reflected in certain accident reports.
At what level though? Regionals, or the Majors who have had the opportunity to cherry pick for the better park of a decade? I really hope we didn't hire a bunch of substandard pilots in 2010.

One only has to look as far as the safety record in India to tell you what a chronic pilot shortage gets you.

Completely agree with you about safety inertia too, or as I call it the kind of luck that wakes you up in the middle of the night.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:20 PM
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I watched that whole video waiting for somebody to crash. Very disappointing.
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Flybywine
I watched that whole video waiting for somebody to crash. Very disappointing.

Better, "I watched the whole video waiting for underboob."
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:57 PM
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Another fine example of professionalism by the TSA.....



TSA Screener Throws Hot Coffee In Face Of Pilot Who Asked Her To Stop Cursing
New York
April 4, 2012 | Info Wars

Told security worker to “stop using the n-word” in the terminal

A TSA screener working at JFK Airport in New York was arrested after launching a cup of hot coffee into the face of an airline pilot who asked her to stop swearing in the terminal.

Off duty pilot Steven Trivett was leaving terminal 8 at JFK early in the morning last week when he encountered a group of TSA workers engaged in what was described as a “profanity- laced conversation”.

Concerned that passengers, including young children could hear the screeners, Mr Trivett asked them to tone down the exchange.

Mr Trivett advised the screeners that they should “conduct themselves more professionally in uniform and not use profanity or the n-word,” Port Authority police sources said.

The sources then described how one of the screeners reacted to Trivett, telling him to “mind his own business” and cursing him out.

Mr Trivett then attempted to get a closer look at the screener’s ID tags, presumably in order to report the incident. The screener, 30 year old Lateisha El, then reportedly shoved the pilot and hurled a full cup of hot coffee at his face.

Police said that Mr Trivett thankfully walked away without being seriously hurt. El, from East New York in Brooklyn, was arrested and charged with harassment and misdemeanor-assault.
Details of the incident, which occurred last Wednesday, emerged today with a report in the New York Post.
This incident once again serves as a reminder of the kind of people that the federal government is empowering and trusting with the security of major airports and transport hubs.
Thuggish and violent oafs with no manners and even less brains have been given carte blanche by big government to order Americans around while freely groping them and ogling their naked bodies.
Perhaps*Lateisha El applied to work for the TSA after seeing a similar ad to one published on Craigslist this week bragging about the federal agency’s mission to create an “imperious” security team.
Disrespecting a pilot and throwing a hot drink in his face is a minor offense, compared to the other criminal activities of TSA agents now reported on a daily basis.
Recent behavior on behalf of TSA agents ranges from running prostitution rings and using child pornography, to drunkenly firing guns and trashing hotel rooms. And that was just last week.
We’ve previously*documented numerous examples where TSA agents have been caught committing crimes both on and off the job, from molesting children, to stealing, to kidnapping, to assault, to drug smuggling. The list of cases is growing to biblical proportions and gets larger with each passing day.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Flybywine
I watched that whole video waiting for somebody to crash. Very disappointing.
I know right.

We can all do a go around, sort of, but it takes guts to land when you shouldn't.




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Old 04-04-2012, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Another fine example of professionalism by the TSA.....



TSA Screener Throws Hot Coffee In Face Of Pilot Who Asked Her To Stop Cursing
New York
April 4, 2012 | Info Wars

Told security worker to “stop using the n-word” in the terminal

A TSA screener working at JFK Airport in New York was arrested after launching a cup of hot coffee into the face of an airline pilot who asked her to stop swearing in the terminal.

Off duty pilot Steven Trivett was leaving terminal 8 at JFK early in the morning last week when he encountered a group of TSA workers engaged in what was described as a “profanity- laced conversation”.

Concerned that passengers, including young children could hear the screeners, Mr Trivett asked them to tone down the exchange.

Mr Trivett advised the screeners that they should “conduct themselves more professionally in uniform and not use profanity or the n-word,” Port Authority police sources said.

The sources then described how one of the screeners reacted to Trivett, telling him to “mind his own business” and cursing him out.

Mr Trivett then attempted to get a closer look at the screener’s ID tags, presumably in order to report the incident. The screener, 30 year old Lateisha El, then reportedly shoved the pilot and hurled a full cup of hot coffee at his face.

Police said that Mr Trivett thankfully walked away without being seriously hurt. El, from East New York in Brooklyn, was arrested and charged with harassment and misdemeanor-assault.
Details of the incident, which occurred last Wednesday, emerged today with a report in the New York Post.
This incident once again serves as a reminder of the kind of people that the federal government is empowering and trusting with the security of major airports and transport hubs.
Thuggish and violent oafs with no manners and even less brains have been given carte blanche by big government to order Americans around while freely groping them and ogling their naked bodies.
Perhaps*Lateisha El applied to work for the TSA after seeing a similar ad to one published on Craigslist this week bragging about the federal agency’s mission to create an “imperious” security team.
Disrespecting a pilot and throwing a hot drink in his face is a minor offense, compared to the other criminal activities of TSA agents now reported on a daily basis.
Recent behavior on behalf of TSA agents ranges from running prostitution rings and using child pornography, to drunkenly firing guns and trashing hotel rooms. And that was just last week.
We’ve previously*documented numerous examples where TSA agents have been caught committing crimes both on and off the job, from molesting children, to stealing, to kidnapping, to assault, to drug smuggling. The list of cases is growing to biblical proportions and gets larger with each passing day.

Hate crime?
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Another fine example of professionalism by the TSA.....



TSA Screener Throws Hot Coffee In Face Of Pilot Who Asked Her To Stop Cursing
New York
April 4, 2012 | Info Wars

Told security worker to “stop using the n-word” in the terminal

A TSA screener working at JFK Airport in New York was arrested after launching a cup of hot coffee into the face of an airline pilot who asked her to stop swearing in the terminal.

Off duty pilot Steven Trivett was leaving terminal 8 at JFK early in the morning last week when he encountered a group of TSA workers engaged in what was described as a “profanity- laced conversation”.

Concerned that passengers, including young children could hear the screeners, Mr Trivett asked them to tone down the exchange.

Mr Trivett advised the screeners that they should “conduct themselves more professionally in uniform and not use profanity or the n-word,” Port Authority police sources said.

The sources then described how one of the screeners reacted to Trivett, telling him to “mind his own business” and cursing him out.

Mr Trivett then attempted to get a closer look at the screener’s ID tags, presumably in order to report the incident. The screener, 30 year old Lateisha El, then reportedly shoved the pilot and hurled a full cup of hot coffee at his face.

Police said that Mr Trivett thankfully walked away without being seriously hurt. El, from East New York in Brooklyn, was arrested and charged with harassment and misdemeanor-assault.
Details of the incident, which occurred last Wednesday, emerged today with a report in the New York Post.
This incident once again serves as a reminder of the kind of people that the federal government is empowering and trusting with the security of major airports and transport hubs.
Thuggish and violent oafs with no manners and even less brains have been given carte blanche by big government to order Americans around while freely groping them and ogling their naked bodies.
Perhaps*Lateisha El applied to work for the TSA after seeing a similar ad to one published on Craigslist this week bragging about the federal agency’s mission to create an “imperious” security team.
Disrespecting a pilot and throwing a hot drink in his face is a minor offense, compared to the other criminal activities of TSA agents now reported on a daily basis.
Recent behavior on behalf of TSA agents ranges from running prostitution rings and using child pornography, to drunkenly firing guns and trashing hotel rooms. And that was just last week.
We’ve previously*documented numerous examples where TSA agents have been caught committing crimes both on and off the job, from molesting children, to stealing, to kidnapping, to assault, to drug smuggling. The list of cases is growing to biblical proportions and gets larger with each passing day.
The takeaway from this is:

JetBlue pilot arrested and held without bail accused of federal crime "interference with flight crew member". TSA goon arrested and charged by local authorities with misdemeanor assault. One of these things is not like the other.

Sad that our government doesn't ever step up to the plate to protect flight crews.
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Timeout... that was not me that said what you quoted. I had quoted someone else and left out the quotes... I agree with you and know that you are exactly correct..

Just clarifying the record.
Sorry if the quote messed up, I know it was the person you were quoting.
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:47 PM
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Anyone read the May update from Crew Resources? Doesn't look good for pilot hiring (Q&A at the bottom of the document).
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