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Old 04-03-2012, 03:15 AM
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As a reminder, to add to one's "Ignore List":

User CP>Edit Ignore List...I've just exercised this option.

Good for those folks who post useless drivel or who are dishonest.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:30 AM
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Padre2992 = Industrial Psychologist, which is really just a polite term for one engaged in activity that is negatively directed towards labor.
not a Delta Pilot. Not 1 Delta pilot or any pilot would agree to your 11% or any of your stuff your throwing out here
Add APA references, NMB comments and this sounds suspiciously familiar. Anti-Labor, managing expectations - management, DALPA, or one in the same?

My guess is Padre2992= is Slowplay of the Strategic Pessimism Committee

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Old 04-03-2012, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by padre2992
I agree, the slot swap sucked.

The company already feels we've been paid back for our contributions regarding the merger. The NMB doesn't care what the synergies were. They (the NMB) are living in 2012, and asking what have you done lately?

If a person doesn't want to participate in future steps, it's an option. We could follow the traditional path to Section 6. The value of whatever the company wants to exchange for our expedited contract would disappear. It's a choice.

Most pilots I talk to don't think 11% is enough. Most certainly think that 43% is for the lunatic fringe.

Hoserpilot, "Padre seems to know it all. He has an answer for everything except his base and a/c."

Even staying in a Holiday Inn Express wouldn't qualify me as an Industrial Psychologist, or get me into a cubicle. Why does one have to know what seat and category a person is in? If he's in a position junior to you, does that make his logic less sound or his posts less valuable? Evaluate the words and thoughts, not the person.

Hey Padre;

If we all put you on our ignore list, does that mean you will lose your job?
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Padre seems to know it all. He has an answer for everything except his base and a/c.

Hoserpilot is an ATL Maddog pilot extraordinaire. I bet padre is one of those kids the big DALPA pays to monitor twitter and other social media.
Fixed it for you hoser.

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Old 04-03-2012, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by padre2992
The NMB doesn't care what the synergies were. They (the NMB) are living in 2012, and asking what have you done lately?
Completely false. The NMB will (if they are asked to participate) look at everything in their determination of what is reasonable and achievable. When you say the NMB will be asking "what have you done lately", you literally sound like someone reading prepared talking points. As such you just sound dopey.

Originally Posted by padre2992
If a person doesn't want to participate in future steps, it's an option. We could follow the traditional path to Section 6. The value of whatever the company wants to exchange for our expedited contract would disappear. It's a choice.
Again, whoever is preparing your talking points doesn't understand a section 6 negotiations. What the company is willing to give is not one penny more than what they think the NMB would agree to anyway. Offering more would be a failure of management's fiduciary responsibilities. Going the traditional section 6 path is all about telling management that we disagree with what you think the NMB will allow. You and your talking point authors know this as well...which is why you are so desperately trying to talk us out of a section 6. You and your other cubicle residents are clearly afraid of a full section 6. We are not. We've waited over a decade for it.

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Most pilots I talk to don't think 11% is enough. Most certainly think that 43% is for the lunatic fringe.
Would those be the pilots who swing by your cubicle to say hi?

Originally Posted by padre2992
Even staying in a Holiday Inn Express wouldn't qualify me as an Industrial Psychologist, or get me into a cubicle. Why does one have to know what seat and category a person is in? If he's in a position junior to you, does that make his logic less sound or his posts less valuable? Evaluate the words and thoughts, not the person.
Translation: Please stop asking about my position and base. I'm not really a Delta pilot so please change the subject. Please?

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Old 04-03-2012, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Hey Padre;

If we all put you on our ignore list, does that mean you will lose your job?
No, it just means he'll have to get back to those account receivables.

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Old 04-03-2012, 04:57 AM
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That's a different debate.

The 737 is a much more capable aircraft. It can fly from SLC to SJC and from SJC to JFK. Both probably much cheaper than the 88.

Because it is more capable, it should be paid more. Why? The pilots didn't buy it. We are only equipment operators. We don't get any extra bonus because of the way we operate the airplanes.. i.e. fuel underburn, saving time, etc... why do you suppose that is?

I don't even think the 88 can fly from SLC to ATL on a hot summer day, unless you take off without a full load.

I'm not trying to disrespect the 88 pilots (but you will anyway), because they work equally hard. It's just that when the pay was established on the 737N, it was high because of the contributions it made to the company bottom line. So, because it was done that way in years past means it is just as valid today?

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Old 04-03-2012, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Kentucky will win tonight but it won't matter....it will be vacated when the NCAA finds Calipari again guilty of violations. Just like they did with his UMass and UMemphis final four teams. He's a shyster. Great recruiter but doesn't do it within the rules.
He's gonna have to recruit every year for the NBA, because it appears that he is the king of one and done. College basketball is being ruined right before our eyes... might as well start paying 'em.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
He's gonna have to recruit every year for the NBA, because it appears that he is the king of one and done. College basketball is being ruined right before our eyes... might as well start paying 'em.
Yep, and its a shame. I'm from Chapel Hill and a UNC fan. Three of their best guys are bolting...at least they spent two years at Carolina.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Yep, and its a shame. I'm from Chapel Hill and a UNC fan. Three of their best guys are bolting...at least they spent two years at Carolina.

^^^^^^^ +1
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