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Old 04-02-2012, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jherk02
WOW.

May Rotation 9617 for MSP DC-9B has a seven-leg day.

7:18 Blk, longest turn is 42 minutes.

11:05 LAYO the night before, 10:22 the night of.

It will be interesting to see if this becomes a way-of-life for the ATL DC-9.
Why don't I see that rotation? What date does it start?
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Why don't I see that rotation? What date does it start?

It's MSP 9617 on 09MAY
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jherk02
WOW.

May Rotation 9617 for MSP DC-9B has a seven-leg day.

7:18 Blk, longest turn is 42 minutes.

11:05 LAYO the night before, 10:22 the night of.

It will be interesting to see if this becomes a way-of-life for the ATL DC-9.

I agree wow, but at least its mainline doing the flying.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:15 AM
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From the other thread:

Originally Posted by Rolf
June: worked 11 days for 118 trips 1 week vacation, July worked 14 days and got paid 113 trips. For August I dropped what I could (for no pay) worked 10 and got 77 trips.

My gross thru July 31 is 151k. All 4 weeks of vacation were in the first 6 months and generally bumps the pay up a little. 11 year CA. I'm really hoping you guys get your pay restored!
Originally Posted by LuvJockey
July - 16 days, $24,388
August 17 days, $23,006

Numbers don't include per - diem, 401k match, vacation, sick pay, only flight pay.

That's the view from the bottom of the barrel in the left seat.
Originally Posted by Waldo11
My first month at SWA as a new hire. I did work my butt off and won't be doing this all the time but nice to know you have the option.

160 Trips for pay.
Approx 78 were at 2nd yr pay. 78x82.99 = $6473.22
Leaves 82 at 1st yr pay. 82x49.19 = $4033.58

Total $10506.80 add in Per Diem and company 401k match and not bad for first year pay.
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I glanced at a bid pack for this month. Looks like average is 77 hours. Paying somewhere in the low 90's for trips.
Originally Posted by skibikegolf
For the vast majority of SWA pay, use the following equation:

First 55 minutes = 1 TFP

Every 5 minutes thereafter = .1 TFP

2 hour flight = 55 minutes (1 TFP) + 65 minutes (1.3 TFP) total = 2.3 TFP for a two hour flight.
Originally Posted by ClipperJet
You made me curious, so I called a friend. SWA pilots are paid by the "trip" which I understand is kind of like by the hour, but not really, anyway... I did some math...

Mid level FO makes about $119 a "trip." Apparently, averaging about 100 "trips" per month is pretty normal/easy to get. Guys who really hustle and fly a lot end up around 120 "trips" per month. Not sure exactly how much one has to “hustle”…

100 trips x $119 = $11,900/month
- 401k match is 9.3%, so $11,900 x 1.093 = $13,007/month
- Add about $500/month in per diem = $13,507/month
- $13,507 x 12months = $162,084
- Profit sharing varies, but figure 5%ish: $162,084 x 1.05 = $170,188

- 120 trips: $202,961 as an FO!

Captains:

Captains max out at 12 years at about $185 a "trip."
Same math for 100 trips: $261,078
Same math for 120 trips: $312,033

401k match and profit sharing are retirement accounts. You could not participate in the 401k and profit sharing may go to zero, then...
FO @ 100 trips: $148,800; 120 trips: $177,360
Capt @ 100 trips: $228,000; 120 trips: $272,400

All of this before taxes...
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jherk02
WOW.

May Rotation 9617 for MSP DC-9B has a seven-leg day.

7:18 Blk, longest turn is 42 minutes.

11:05 LAYO the night before, 10:22 the night of.

It will be interesting to see if this becomes a way-of-life for the ATL DC-9.
They have the ATL rotation in May open time right now all 2 days and 5 days
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by flyBanana
It's MSP 9617 on 09MAY
Thanks. Looks like too much work!
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:19 AM
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How are you guys getting the May bidpacks? I've tried the trick replacing the URL for both the "all bidpacks" page and also the individual bidpack page with "MAY" from APR, but am just pulling up May 11 bids? Usually when that happens, they'll soon lock the URL and you'll get "Ligero errors", then finally the trick will work allowing 1-3 days early access?
Thx for any info/tricks!
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
How are you guys getting the May bidpacks? I've tried the trick replacing the URL for both the "all bidpacks" page and also the individual bidpack page with "MAY" from APR, but am just pulling up May 11 bids? Usually when that happens, they'll soon lock the URL and you'll get "Ligero errors", then finally the trick will work allowing 1-3 days early access?
Thx for any info/tricks!
No bid packs available, but you can see the trips in open time in icrew for may.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:30 AM
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Disregard........
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:40 AM
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Yikes. I just perused the ATLDC9 trips for May. Most of the 5 days are brutal! Not that I wasn't expecting it, but each 5 day trip has more legs than I've flown in the past 6 months. Most of them have back-to-back 6 leg days and the longest layover I saw was ~14 hours.

The upside is I'll be proficient again in no time!
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