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Old 03-28-2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
This is a Rorschach test right?

A) 3 year old SWA pilot in the making,

B) 80 in the morning.

It's obviously B. Don't know why.

I've done hard time there.
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Old 03-28-2012, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
As soon as you load the completion code into iCrew, you can check your time card and there will be a pay amount listed down near the bottom that will show you the exact amount of time you are being paid for it. Here's a hint...it's about 2/3rds less than it should be.
The last time I did it (A320) it took about a day to hit the time card so don't panic.
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I guess I can plan on movin on up! To the top! Finally got a piece of the sky! Well I'm moving on up, to the top, finally got a piece of pie!
FTB's new theme song. Wonder if he looks anything like the Jefferson's neighbor?



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Old 03-28-2012, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo

So where did our MD 11's end up, World? Fed Ex? I can't remember, but I know our old DC 8's went to UPS. I don't remember where our old 747's went, it was before my time at DAL.
Which kind of leads into the "productivity" argument of FedEx pilots vs DAL pilots and what they carry in their airplanes. What I am having a hard time describing is that they are very much more productive than we are because they can fly an airframe that burns 33% more gas and still be profitable.. THAT is why I hate the productivity argument. Pay because of productivity is stupid. Management buys the vehicle. We don't.
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
So where did our MD 11's end up, World? Fed Ex? I can't remember, but I know our old DC 8's went to UPS. I don't remember where our old 747's went, it was before my time at DAL.
I know at least one of Delta's 747s ended up at Kalitta Air, I flew it over there. I forget what the tail number is now, a little airliners.net research in the pictures would find that.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
I know at least one of Delta's 747s ended up at Kalitta Air, I flew it over there. I forget what the tail number is now, a little airliners.net research in the pictures would find that.
wait, are you guys talking about the NWA 747s or the PMDAL 747s parked in the 1970s? because if its the latter, ia, you old.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
How many DAL pilots with apps in at FedEx?

I know of 4 with hire dates ranging from 1999-2010. This latest AE was the last straw which pushed 1 of them. Just curious if others out there are entertaining the thought. Check out the pay scales. Even 2d/3d year FOs are doing quite well. Not sure I'd want to start over though.

Well from one who spends a lot of time talking to young qualified pilots who have their eye on the commercial carriers, FX is certainly the big kid on the block in their minds. They see 2 things that the legacies don't offer: dollar billz and 'job security' in the freight business model. The million dollar question is how perishable both are over time when seniority isn't. the other unkown is why FX wasn't the top ticket pre-911. Uneducated guess: most Jr DAL guys will wait until the next contract and then bail if it's bad.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tripled
Well from one who spends a lot of time talking to young qualified pilots who have their eye on the commercial carriers, FX is certainly the big kid on the block in their minds. They see 2 things that the legacies don't offer: dollar billz and 'job security' in the freight business model. The million dollar question is how perishable both are over time when seniority isn't. the other unkown is why FX wasn't the top ticket pre-911. Uneducated guess: most Jr DAL guys will wait until the next contract and then bail if it's bad.
My app is in with FEDEX. 4 years at DAL thus far. I'll go where my skills are appreciated. It's just business.
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:35 PM
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My app is in with FEDEX. 4 years at DAL thus far. I'll go where my skills are appreciated. It's just business.

If the pay comes back will you leave?
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
wait, are you guys talking about the NWA 747s or the PMDAL 747s parked in the 1970s? because if its the latter, ia, you old.

I don't know which ones iaflyer was talking about, probably the NW Freighters, but I was talking about the DL 747's from the 1970's, and as I said, it was before my time. I did fly with a MD 11 Capt. who had been an engineer on the DL 747's back in the day.

He said everyone called them the "Non-Rev Specials" because there were ALWAYS plenty of empty seats! Ahhh...those where the days! When I was in new hire training (1985), Hollis Harris told us the DL Break even Load Factor was about 65%, and the average load factor was 69%. What is our average load factor today, about 85%?

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