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Old 03-27-2012, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralphie
Wow, this thread is getting really boring.
Latest from CPO in the northeast...

777 order in the low teens
717s, # to be determined
20% pay raise, quick contract with few rules changes (hence the willingness to work over the last 2 years for LOAs)
Increased number of 76 seaters
60-65 medical benefits to encourage retirements
nothing stated regarding hiring

discuss...(already a huge no vote from me on scope alone)
Nice rumor, let me see:
  • Medical benefits to encourage retirements was offered to all other employees.
  • Aircraft orders are not a contract item.
  • Scope needs to improve especially for large RJs, not permit more.

So basically the rumored offer would be a 20% raise with strings attached...
I not sure that "offer" would make me "feel connected to Delta & the brand"

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Old 03-27-2012, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
How about we don't believe the CPO when it is negotiation time?
I love Delta because it has smart people. I am really glad for the times when we could select the brightest from the applicants. Too bad those times are gone..

My strike fund is ready. My family is ready.
I am ready for the "Look! Delta pilots are hampering the company growth and with them voting no we will have to liquidate tomorrow" psychological warfare.

Lets get a good contract!
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralphie
Wow, this thread is getting really boring.
Latest from CPO in the northeast...

777 order in the low teens
717s, # to be determined
20% pay raise, quick contract with few rules changes (hence the willingness to work over the last 2 years for LOAs)
Increased number of 76 seaters
60-65 medical benefits to encourage retirements
nothing stated regarding hiring

discuss...(already a huge no vote from me on scope alone)
Just say nope to bad scope.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
I love Delta because it has smart people. I am really glad for the times when we could select the brightest from the applicants. Too bad those times are gone..

My strike fund is ready. My family is ready.
I am ready for the "Look! Delta pilots are hampering the company growth and with them voting no we will have to liquidate tomorrow" psychological warfare.

Lets get a good contract!
I strongly agree with how "you understand your work impacts Delta's overall goals."

Cheers
George

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Old 03-27-2012, 09:36 AM
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They can increase the 76 seaters if they get the 717's, isn't that correct?
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralphie
Wow, this thread is getting really boring.
Latest from CPO in the northeast...

777 order in the low teens
717s, # to be determined
20% pay raise, quick contract with few rules changes (hence the willingness to work over the last 2 years for LOAs)
Increased number of 76 seaters
60-65 medical benefits to encourage retirements
nothing stated regarding hiring

discuss...(already a huge no vote from me on scope alone)

Further scope erosion equals NO on my ballot.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by groundstop
They can increase the 76 seaters if they get the 717's, isn't that correct?
Yes, but only if they hit a mainline fleet count of 767(I think) AND they must remove 70 seaters in order to do so.(Which may be difficult to do since many CRJ700's and EMB170's are under contract) The total number of large RJs(51-76 seats) may NOT exceed 255 REGARDLESS of fleet count.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Yes, but only if they hit a mainline fleet count of 767(I think) AND they must remove 70 seaters in order to do so. The total number of large RJs(51-76 seats) may NOT exceed 255 REGARDLESS of fleet count.
Exactly, and the fleet count is about 30-something jets shy of the 767 anyway, so it would be years before a change could increase it.

Plus the company already has agreements in place at other airlines to fly those 70 seat birds so not so easy to dump them, just to have to buy a new jet that has 6 more seats.... Not a very good business decision IMHO.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralphie
Wow, this thread is getting really boring.
Latest from CPO in the northeast...

777 order in the low teens
717s, # to be determined
20% pay raise, quick contract with few rules changes (hence the willingness to work over the last 2 years for LOAs)
Increased number of 76 seaters
60-65 medical benefits to encourage retirements
nothing stated regarding hiring

discuss...(already a huge no vote from me on scope alone)
No, just as Johnso said...
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
Just say nope to bad scope.
Good line.

I say, say yes to Delta!!!


As in yes to Delta airplanes, pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, employees and management team for Delta passengers. No more bait and switch when it comes to service providers.
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